Zen Master Dongshan – Talk 5 – “Not Knowing is Most Intimate” – Jeff Bickner and Sue Moon – All Day Sitting February 2022

Jeff Bickner and Sue Moon speak on the koan “Not Knowing is Most Intimate” based on a conversation of Dongshan (Daizeng) and his student Fayen.  This Koan can be found as Case 171 in the Tanahashi/Loori translation “The True Dharma Eye – Zen Master Dogen’s three Hundred Koans.”  It is also found in the Thomas Cleary version of the Book of Serenity Case 20.