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Prajna Paramita in 8,000 Lines – 2007 (Part 2 of 4)

Second in a series of four talks on “The Perfection of Wisdom in Eight Thousand Lines” translated by Edward Conze.

Prajna Paramita in 8,000 Lines (Part 2 of 4)

By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | September 12, 2007

Abridged and edited by Ryusen Barbara Byrum

 

I want to start with one passage that we read last week. I want to repeat it, because I think it is such a great and important passage. It appears on page 94, the last paragraph. Subhuti is the mouthpiece for the sutra.

Subhuti: The perfection of wisdom, beneficial to all the three vehicles, is also the perfection which [allows them not to] lean on any dharma, because it shows that all dharmas have no support and can therefore give none. [Here dharmas mean everything.]

The virtue of the perfection of wisdom is that it allows all practitioners not to lean on anything, or to depend on anything, because there is nothing to depend on. “Lean on” you could read as “attached to; get entangled in.” You don’t have to get entangled in anything, because when you appreciate the teachings of the sutra, you realize that there was never anything to get entangled in. So to be unsupported in terms of this sutra is the ultimate security.

Subhuti: For if a Bodhisattva, when this deep perfection of wisdom is being taught, remains unafraid, then one should know that she has adjusted herself to the perfection of wisdom, and that she is not lacking in this attention [to the true facts about dharmas.]

So, these are two things that we stressed last week, and that were mentioned so often in the beginning of the sutra. One is to realize the unsupported nature of all dharmas, the empty nature of all dharmas, the insubstantial nature of all dharmas. The other is to not be afraid or freaked-out, or not to fall into despair and lacking motivation. To realize the empty nature of all dharmas, and not to be afraid, is to course in the perfection of wisdom. Then a particular kind of attention – of mindfulness – arises.

Then Sariputra, who is the spokesperson for those who do not understand the perfection of wisdom and have a great resistance to it, appears. He questions Subhuti, saying:

Sariputra: How is it that a Bodhisattva does not lack in attention when he is adjusted to perfect wisdom? [In other words, he is saying, “No, I think a Bodhisattva would lack in attention when he is adjusted to perfect wisdom.”] For if a Bodhisattva is not lacking in attention, then he should automatically lack in adjustment to the perfection of wisdom.

In other words, there are two choices. Either you see that everything is unsupported and empty, or you have attention. Because if you saw that everything was unsupported and lacked any substance, you couldn’t have any attention. You could only have attention if you thought there was something there to be attentive to. You might think, “I have been practicing attentiveness and mindfulness, because I think that there is something to be mindful of. You’re saying there is nothing to be mindful of, so it is either one or the other. Either you are going to be mindful of something, or you are not mindful, in which case you are in accord with the teachings of the perfection of wisdom.”

Sariputra: And if he does not lack in adjustment to the perfection of wisdom, then he would be lacking in attention. [So if he is in accord with the perfection of wisdom, then there is no attention.] But if in a Bodhisattva the two facts that he is not lacking in attention, and that he is not lacking in dwelling in the perfection of wisdom, belong together, then all beings also will not be lacking in dwelling in the perfection of wisdom. Because they also dwell in not lacking in attention.

It’s a little convoluted, but basically Sariputra is saying that either you have attention to something, or you see that there is nothing, and there is no attention. If you have attention to nothing, and also understand that everything is nothing, then what are we talking about? There’s nobody out here for attention. Everybody is all the same. Everybody is mindful or not mindful. So what’s the difference? Practice does not seem to exist. This is not an incorrect statement. What he is trying to say is that this doesn’t make any sense.

I am not going to check to see if you are following me, I’m just going on! [Laughter]

Subhuti: Well said, and yet I must reprove you, although the Venerable Sariputra has taken hold of the matter correctly as far as the words are concerned. Because one should know that attention [mindfulness, awareness] has no real existence in the same way in which beings have no real existence. [So attention is empty; attention itself is empty; mindfulness itself is empty, just the same way that all other things are empty.] That attention is isolated in the same way in which beings are isolated. [Last time we spoke about this word “isolated,” which means, “supreme, sovereign, without peer,” not “desperately lonely.”] That attention is unthinkable in the same way that beings are unthinkable; that acts of mental attention do not undergo the process that leads to enlightenment in the same way that beings do not undergo that process; that acts of attention do not in any real sense undergo the process which leads to enlightenment, any more than beings do. It is through an attention of such a character that I wish that a Bodhisattva, a great being, may dwell in this dwelling.

This is a description of Zen mindfulness, in which we are not so interested in something to be mindful of – we are not investigating or figuring something out – we are applying an attention, which has no particular object that is actually existing. I was thinking the other day that one of my teachers had a great way of putting this. It was a brilliant way of putting it. He said, “Awareness, mindfulness, means to drop the significance of everything.” Meaning, drop the conceptual set-up that we are holding about ourselves, about anything that we are dealing with, and just be present without any objects.

It is a different kind of presence. It’s not that I am being mindful of my thoughts, so that I can see the kind of thoughts I’m having (good thoughts or bad thoughts), or mindful of my posture, so that I can have the right posture. But just being present, dropping the significance of everything, so that everything falls away and there is just the being present. It’s a little different way of being mindful. In a way, it looks the same from the outside, but there is a certain level of depth here, of the recognition that you are not working toward something. You are just being absolutely and totally present.

It was in that spirit that I suggested that, in order to prevent us from becoming too heady, those of us who are willing to – and I myself was willing to do this – we would all practice being attentive in this way while we are washing the dishes. I suggested that we pay attention specifically when washing the dishes:, completely being present, with nothing there on each moment of washing the dishes. But then I thought, “Suppose some of these people have dishwashers?” I didn’t think of that. I don’t have a dishwasher. So let me be clear about this. I am about talking not about putting dishes in the dishwasher – you can still do this sometimes – but washing the dishes and seeing everything, the whole cosmos, on each moment.

I was practicing that this week, and I found it really satisfying and interesting and profound. I noticed a few things. I noticed that in a very subtle way, while I was standing there washing the dishes, my body was ever so slightly leaning in another direction. I was there washing the dishes, but really I was, “Let’s get this over with, because I have something more important to do.” Even though it was very subtle – and if you looked at me, you would not have said that – but from the inside, I could feel that very slightly I was turning away in another direction. This clearly meant to me that I had forgotten the empty nature of the dishes, and of myself, and of the next task that I supposedly was going to do. I was thinking that there was actually something important to be done, and the dishes were something that had to be done and gotten through with, so that I could go on to the next thing. So the rest of the week, whenever I noticed myself doing that, I would be there, firmly facing the dishes. It made a big difference, and there was a lot more release in my washing of the dishes. When I did that, I began to notice that washing the dishes has a lot to do with hearing the sound of the water and the movement of the dishes; and once I started hearing that, it made a whole different experience. There was a lot of peace in that practice. I could feel more emptiness. I could feel more a sense that the dishes were far from being something to get through quickly. They were saving me. The empty nature of the dishes was compassionately taking me in hand and giving me something really precious. Releasing me from my quite unconscious fantasies.

So that is my little report on Zen dishwashing, and I recommend that we all try this. I bring it up again, because it is what the sutra is talking about. With all these words and concepts that may seem hard to grasp, it really isn’t about the words and concepts. It is about the reality of our experience in being with our lives in a particular way.

So on to page 100 in chapter two. This is section six, “The Infinitude of Perfect Wisdom.” Sakra is the chief of the gods. The gods all come together to the Buddha and appreciate the teaching.

Sakra: This perfection of wisdom, Subhuti, is a great perfection, unlimited, measureless, infinite.

Subhuti: So it is. And why? Perfect wisdom is great, unlimited, measureless, and infinite because form, feelings, perceptions, consciousness are also unlimited. [So the dishes are infinite; this is the point. The dishes are measureless, infinite. I was not noticing that. If you are washing infinite dishes, it’s a fantastic thing! It’s not a chore.] Hence one does not settle down in the conviction that this is a ‘great perfection,’ an ‘unlimited perfection,’ a ‘measureless perfection’, and ‘infinite perfection.’ [Why? Because those are limited concepts.] That is why perfect wisdom is a great perfection, unlimited, measureless, and infinite. [Not even limited by the concepts.] Perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection because objects as well as individual beings are infinite. [So here you see that “limitless,” “measureless,” and “infinite” are synonyms for emptiness.] Perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection because one cannot get at the beginning, middle, or end of any objective fact. Moreover, perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection because all objective facts are endless and boundless, and their beginning, middle, or end are not apprehended. For one cannot apprehend the beginning, middle and end of form. In that way, perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection by reason of the infinitude of objects. And further again, a being is endless and boundless because one cannot get at its beginning, middle, or end. Therefore perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection by reason of the infinitude of beings. [So we are strangled by the limitations of our everyday experience, including our thoughts and feelings – so ineffable, indefinable, and ungraspable. Frightening to think of that. And yet we hear about emptinesss, and we get frightened. But emptiness is the antidote to that.]

Sakra: How is it, Holy Subhuti, that perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection by reason of the infinitude of beings?

Subhuti: It is not so because of their exceedingly great number and abundance.

Sakra: How then, Holy Subhuti, is perfect wisdom an infinite perfection by reason of the infinitude of beings?

Subhuti: What factual entity does the word “being” denote?

Sakra: The word “being” denotes no dharma or non-dharma. It is a term that has been added on [to what is really there] as something adventitious, groundless, as nothing in itself, unfounded in objective fact. [So all of our language, and most of our thinking, is an add-on, without anything to which it exactly refers.]

Subhuti: Thereby, has any being shown up? [Does any being appear with your words?

Sakra: No, indeed, Holy Subhuti!

Subhuti: When no being at all has shown up, how can there be an infinitude of them? [There aren’t any.] If a Tathagatha, with his voice of infinite range, with the deep thunder of his voice, should pronounce, for eons countless as the sands of the Ganges, the word ‘being,’ ‘being’ [countless beings], would he thereby produce, or stop, any being whatsoever, either in the past, present, or future?

Sakra: No, indeed, Holy Subhuti! Because a being is pure from the very beginning, perfectly pure. [Limitless, measureless, perfectly pure, impervious – all beings, all dharmas, all thoughts, all objects.]

Subhuti: In this way also, perfect wisdom is an infinite perfection by reason of the infinitude of beings. In this manner also, the infinitude of perfect wisdom should be known from the infinitude of beings.

[Page 119]

Sakra: Does a Bodhisattva course only in the perfection of wisdom, and not in the other perfections?

The Buddha: […] Even so, one cannot get at a distinction or difference between the six perfections. All of them are upheld by skill in means, dedicated to the perfection of wisdom, dedicated to all knowledge.

“Skill in means” is a really important Mahayana term. Basically what it means is profound improvisation. The Perfection of Wisdom is the ultimate flexibility, right? Because there are no guidelines. So one needs to drop the significance of everything, to be fully present in any given situation, and to come forth with what is needed in that situation. Sometimes it might look this way and sometimes that way. How to come forth with all knowledge on any occasion, unique to that occasion.

This is very much the spirit of Zen. No guidelines, no rules, no set forms. Just coming forth from the groundless standing. The virtue of all the training forms is to train us in that. Here we have skill in means. The Perfection of Wisdom is all six Paramitas rolled into one.

Prajna Paramita in 8,000 Lines – 2007 (Part 1 of 4)

First in a series of four talks on “The Perfection of Wisdom in Eight Thousand Lines” translated by Edward Conze.

Prajna Paramita in 8,000 Lines (Part 1 of 4)

By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | September 5, 2007

Abridged and edited by Ryusen Barbara Byrum

As we study the text, I want to make sure that we remember what the point of it is, and what it is really about. It’s not a text about philosophical thoughts, although that’s part of it. It is really a text that is an argument for a particular way to live in the world, a way of living that recognizes the empty nature of everything, including oneself and one’s own thoughts, impulses, and physical body. To say these things are empty is not to say they are unimportant or that they are null and void. It’s to say they exist in a mode that our conventional way of thinking and being does not understand. So to live with respect for each and every thing is to acknowledge the empty nature of those things – that they exist in a mode more luminous and more present than we imagine them.

If you were really able to appreciate the meaning of this sutra, it would mean that you would live and walk and talk and appreciate things differently. I am mentioning this at the outset, because I don’t think you would necessarily understand this or get this on the first reading of the sutra.

So how do we read this text? Probably you have heard me harp on this point before, because reading is changing in our lifetime. What it means to read something now doesn’t mean what it meant when I was a boy in school. We are losing a lot of dimensions of reading. The kind that we do nowadays is reading for information, because there is lots of stuff that we need to know. But there is reading for inspiration; there is reading for wisdom; there is reading for knowledge; there is reading for the pleasure of the sound and the shape of words; there is reading for companionship; there is a reading for love. There is reading from the head, reading from the heart, reading from the guts, reading with the entire body.

Catholics have a beautiful word for holy reading: lectio divina. It is a lovely term and a beautiful practice. Divine reading. Scriptural reading, contemplative reading, where reading itself is a contemplative practice. Reading with the same mind that you bring to zazen – that mind of non-directed, non-choice, non-accomplishment. Just being there as the text flows by. You surrender yourself completely to the text. You give yourself to the text, and you let the text speak to you. When you do lectio divina, you are not trying necessarily to understand the text. If you don’t understand the text, it does not make any difference. You keep reading as a devotional act, as a contemplative act, with a full willingness not to understand if you don’t understand, or to give yourself up to understanding if you do understand, and if you don’t or do understand, to appreciate the music and sincerity of the text. In lectio divina you might find a passage and read it again, because it is important. You don’t know why, but it is, so you stop and read it again. You might not read anything else for a whole hour, just stopping for one passage or one phrase or one word. Anyway, find a way to read the sutra and experiment with different ways that suit you, but try not to let yourself fall into the pattern of reading the sutra for information.

I copied out the first four lines in the verse summary, which are very beautiful. We should start all our classes with these lines:

Call forth as much as you can of love, of respect and of faith. Remove the obstructing defilements, and clear away your taints. Listen to the perfect wisdom of the gentle buddhas taught for the weal of the world, for heroic spirits intended. [Weal meaning well-being, prosperity, goodness, gladness of the world.]

We’ll start our first reading on page 83, chapter one of the prose sutra.

Thus have I heard at one time. The Lord dwelt at Rajagriha, on the Vulture Peak, together with a great gathering of monks, with 1250 monks, all of them Arhats.

The Lord [the Buddha] said to the Venerable Subhuti, the Elder: Make it clear now, Subhuti, to the Bodhisattvas, the great beings, starting from perfect wisdom, how the Bodhisattvas, the great beings, go forth into perfect wisdom!

Thereupon the Venerable Sariputra thought to himself: Will that Venerable Subhuti, the Elder, expound perfect wisdom of himself, through the operation and force of his own power of revealing wisdom, or through the Buddha’s might?

This introduces the first two important characters of the sutra. Both of them are mentioned in the early sutras as historical disciples of the Buddha. Subhuti was known for his great friendliness, which is why, I think, he was chosen to be one of main speakers of the sutra. He was also famous for being the one who mastered peacefulness. Shariputra was the wisest in the sense of being the most adept at understanding mind, understanding the doctrine, and understanding the early teachings; but he is the fall guy. The attitude of the early texts is that painstaking, psychological work is necessary to overcome defilements and to achieve purity. These sutras are something else. They are talking about seeing into the nature of things all of a sudden – not going from one state to another, but completely letting go. So there isn’t much interest in the many details of the psychological teachings of Buddhism, or at least they are seen in a totally different light. So that is why Shariputra is usually the fall guy.

The Venerable Subhuti, who knew, through the Buddha’s might [in other words, he read his mind; he could see into his mind], that the Venerable Shariputra was in such wise discoursing in his heart, said to the Venerable Shariputra: Whatever, Venerable Shariputra, the Lord’s disciples teach, all that is known to be the Tathagatha’s work. For in the dharma demonstrated by the Tathagatha they train themselves, they realize its true nature, they hold it in mind. Thereafter nothing that they teach contradicts the true nature of dharma. It is just an outpouring of the Tathagatha’s demonstration of dharma, that they do not bring into contradiction with the actual nature of the dharma.

So he is saying that these teachings coming from such people are just as if they came from the Buddha. It is just an outpouring of the Tathagatha’s demonstration of dharma.

Thereupon the Venerable Subhuti, by the Buddha’s might, said to the Lord: When one speaks of a “Bodhisattva,” what dharma does that Bodhisattva denote? [Dharma is an essential unit of reality. In other words, when you say “Bodhisattva,” what is really meant by that word?] I do not, oh Lord, see that dharma “Bodhisattva,” [I see no reality behind that word] nor a dharma called “perfect wisdom.” [You ask me to say how Bodhisattvas enter perfect wisdom, but I don’t see anything real called a Bodhisattva, or anything either called perfect wisdom.] Since I neither find, nor apprehend, nor see a dharma “Bodhisattva,” nor a “perfect wisdom,” what Bodhisattva should I instruct and admonish in what perfect wisdom?”

So, we could stop right here! No need to go on, right?

And yet, oh Lord, if when this is pointed out [that there is no reality in the word Bodhisattva or the phrase perfect wisdom], a Bodhisattva’s heart does not become cowed, nor stolid, does not despair or despond, if he does not turn away or become dejected, does not tremble, is not frightened or terrified, it is just this Bodhisattva, this great being who should be instructed in perfect wisdom. It is precisely this that should be recognized as the perfect wisdom of that Bodhisattva, as his instruction in perfect wisdom. When he thus stands firm, that is his instruction and admonition. Moreover, when a Bodhisattva courses in perfect wisdom and develops it, he should so train himself that he does not pride himself on that thought of enlightenment, with which he has begun his career. That thought is no thought, since in its essential original nature, thought is transparently luminous.

Pretty much that is what the whole sutra teaches. There is no actual, real thing called a bodhisattva, called perfection of wisdom, or anything else. Any word that anybody ever uses should always have quotation marks around it, because it doesn’t really refer to anything real. If you can hear that and understand it, and not freak out when you hear it or become despairing or dejected or lose all your energy for life; if, instead, you stand on ground that is no-ground, then you are a bodhisattva, and that very fact is the perfection of wisdom. That is what the perfection of wisdom is. It is the recognition that nothing is real in the way that we think it is.

This is repeated over and over and over again, because it is clear that when people first heard this teaching, they were angry, they were frightened. If they believed it, they fell into despair and confusion. But that would be a misunderstanding. That would be the expectation of something being real and the disappointment that nothing was, which is different from the liberation and the joy of recognizing that everything is equally unreal and could not be any other way.

Subhuti: A Bodhisattva who does not become afraid when this deep and perfect wisdom is being taught, should be recognized as not lacking in perfect wisdom, standing at the irreversible stage of a Bodhisattva, standing firmly in consequence of his not taking his stand anywhere.

The basis on which we stand in a religion depends on a certain faith or belief or principle or practice. Here the Bodhisattva firmly stands on nothing. If this Bodhisattva can stand on this nothing, without becoming terrified or falling into despair, but be joyful in the doing of it, this is the Bodhisattva who is really manifesting the perfection of wisdom.

Skipping to page 86. This is the question that I would have about now.

Sariputra: How then is a Bodhisattva to course if he is to course in perfect wisdom? [Course meaning to live it, practice it. Entertain it.]

Subhuti: He should not course in the skandas [form, feelings, perceptions, impulses, consciousness], nor in their sign [meaning the essential shape or essence of each skanda], nor in the idea that “the skandas are signs,” nor in the production of the skandas, in their stopping or destruction, nor in the idea that “the skandas are empty,” [you shouldn’t course in the idea that something is empty, because that is just another philosophical proposition, another belief], or “I course,” or “I am a Bodhisattva.” And it should not occur to him. [The pronouns are always masculine; I will switch them]. She who courses thus courses in perfect wisdom and develops it. [She courses, but she does not entertain such ideas as “I course,” “I do not course,” or “I course and I do not course,” or “I neither course nor do I not course,” [and other permutations, and believe me, in the original text, the whole thing is repeated.] She does not go near any dharma at all, because all dharmas are unapproachable and unappropriable. [The person in your life that you know very well and have got figured out, she is unapproachable and unappropriable.] The Bodhisattva then has the concentrated insight, “Not grasping at any dharma,” by name, vast, noble, unlimited and steady, not shared by any Disciples or Pratyekabuddhas. [So not grasping at any dharma is the concentrated insight.]

Sariputra: When she thus trains, she trains in perfect wisdom?

The Lord [the Buddha]: When she thus trains, she trains in perfect wisdom.

Sariputra: When she thus trains, which dharmas does she train in?

The Buddha: She does not train in any dharmas at all, because the dharmas do not exist in such a way as foolish, untaught people are accustomed to suppose.

Sariputra: How then do they exist?

The Buddha: As they do not exist, so they exist. And so, since they do not exist, they are called ignorance. [So ignorance means naively thinking that something that fundamentally doesn’t exist does exist as a solid thing.]

Sariputra: When she trains thus, is a Bodhisattva trained in all knowledge? The Buddha: When she trains herself, a Bodhisattva is not even trained in all-knowledge, and yet is trained in all dharmas. When she thus trains herself, a Bodhisattva is trained in all knowledge, comes near to it, goes forth to it. [So that is all-knowledge. Knowing the emptiness of dharmas and that nothing truly exists in the way we think it does. That is what is called in the sutra all-knowledge.]

Skipping again to page 94,

Subhuti: This is the Lord’s absolute, the essence of the disciples who are without any support. So whatever way they are questioned, they find a way out. [They]Do not contradict the true nature of dharmas, nor depart from it, and that because they do not rely on any dharmas.

Why are they without any support? Because there is no support. There could not be any support, and knowing there is not support is the support. And that is the ultimate support. Every other support could be taken away. Right? That’s why I always love this teaching. You can’t get around this. There is no way to get around this. Everything else, there is always a way around, but how could you get around no support?

There is an acknowledgment here that there is a deep-rooted fear and anger in the human heart that comes from our stubborn inability to recognize this teaching, because it causes us to completely revolutionize the whole way we think we are and what our life is. From the standpoint of dharmas being supported and dharmas being real, it is the ultimate loss. But it is also the ultimate liberation, so it is ultimately for our happiness, and we are going to have to go through a very scary passage to get there. In other words, this is an acknowledgment that fear is there, but this is not about crashing through our fear. It is about understanding that there is no actual cause for the fear. The fear is not actually real. If a Bodhisattva hears these same things and is not afraid, that means that the Bodhisattva has not crashed through her fears. It is just that she understands that there is nothing to be afraid of. No support also means nothing to fear. And remember the Heart Sutra has the line, “Without any hindrance no fears exist.”

One small section in chapter two, and then we will stop. On page 98,

The gods came to listen to the teaching, and thereupon the thought came to them, “What the fairies talk and murmur, that we understand, though mumbled. [I love that line.] What Subhuti has just told us, that we do not understand.” Subhuti read their thoughts and said, “There is nothing to understand.”

So if at this point in the evening you are feeling frustrated because you feel like you haven’t understood anything, this is good; because it would be problematic if you thought you understood something, because you would have thought and understood that you had apprehended a dharma that doesn’t actually exist. There are people who dounderstand the emptiness teachings. But what does that mean? It means that they really don’t understand the emptiness teachings. It means they understand some version of something they can call the emptiness teaching. Because there is literally nothing to understand. I will repeat that, because I think that it is beautiful and wonderful and it’s hard to believe, but I think it is true. “There is nothing to understand.” And this is a big problem, because one remains forever convinced that there is something to understand.

There is nothing to understand. Nothing at all to understand, for nothing in particular has been said. Nothing in particular has been explained. Then the gods said, “May the holy Subhuti enlarge on this a bit. [Laughter] What the holy Subhuti here explores, demonstrates, and teaches, that is remoter than the remote, subtler than the subtle, deeper than the deep.”

Subhuti read their thoughts, and said, “No one can attain any of the fruits of the holy life or keep it, unless she patiently accepts this elusiveness of the dharma.”

Five Hindrances (Talk 3 of 4) – Sloth and Torpor – 2007 Series

Referencing Ayya Khema’s book “Being Nobody, Going Nowhere,” this talk overviews the Five Hindrances. The Five Hindrances are emotional coverings. The mind and heart are naturally peaceful and open, but through karma and habit and living, this brightness gets covered over.  Continued discussion on anger referencing Gil Fronsdale’s book The Issue at Hand, followed by a discussion of sloth and torpor.

Five Hindrances (Talk 2 of 4) – Ill Will – 2007 Series

Referencing Ayya Khema’s book “Being Nobody, Going Nowhere,” this talk overviews the Five Hindrances. The Five Hindrances are emotional coverings. The mind and heart are naturally peaceful and open, but through karma and habit and living, this brightness gets covered over. The talk on sensual desire is continued, followed by a discussion of ill-will and anger.

Five Hindrances (Talk 1 of 4) – Sensual Desire – 2007 Series

Referencing Ayya Khema’s book “Being Nobody, Going Nowhere,” this talk overviews the Five Hindrances. The Five Hindrances are emotional coverings. The mind and heart are naturally peaceful and open, but through karma and habit and living, this brightness gets covered over. This talk is on the first of the Five Hindrances: Sensual Desire.

Five Hindrances (Talk 4 of 4) – Restlessness and Worry & Doubt – 2007 Series

Referencing Ayya Khema’s book “Being Nobody, Going Nowhere,” this talk overviews the Five Hindrances. The Five Hindrances are emotional coverings. The mind and heart are naturally peaceful and open, but through karma and habit and living, this brightness gets covered over.

Norman reviews the fourth discussion of the Five Hindrances for an audience at Spirit Rock, then discusses antidotes to restlessness and worry & skeptical doubt.

Buddha’s Words -Talk 01 – Series 2005

First of Series of talks on the Pali Canon based on the book “In the Buddha’s Words” by Bhikkhu Bodhi.  This book is an anthology drawing primarily of the first four widely available translations of collections of the Buddha’s spoken teachings.

Buddha’s Words (Talk 01 of 13)

By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | September 6, 2005

Transcribed by Murray McGillivray. Abridged and edited by Barbara Byrum.

Bikkhu Bodhi said that religion is “a response to the strains at the heart of the human condition.” I really appreciate that phrase. Buddhism is an active, resolute, strong response. And it’s a response to strains, difficulties, problems that are not extraneous, but are at the very heart of the human condition. The “strain” is the built-in, endemic, and very normal human suffering that we all blame ourselves for – as if suffering were our fault. But it’s actually pretty normal. It is the human condition.

So suffering is not your fault. You didn’t do anything to deserve it; it’s just the ordinary human condition. But to bring suffering to an end, or at least to meliorate it as much as possible in this lifetime, is your responsibility. And it is also your possibility, because you can practice to uncover your human nature, which is also shining and bright. Through the agency of practice we can uncover our shining, luminous, human nature.

The first section of the book is called “The Human Condition.” Our human condition is where practice begins, and it’s where we’ve all begun practice, each one of us, in our personal stories and our personal journeys to practice. Practice begins when we recognize that there is a big problem right in the middle of our life. Some of us might have really strong conditions for suffering, and maybe for some of us, not so much suffering. But one way or the other, we’ve all come to see that there is a big problem right in the middle of our human life. Maybe we think the problem is personal to us, but real practice begins when we see, “No, it’s not my failing, and it’s not my particular circumstances. It’s the human condition that everybody shares, and it just takes this particular shape in my life.”

The first part of the book is divided into four parts. The first part is called “Sickness, Old Age, and Death,” which is, of course, the basic, bottom-line root cause of our human suffering. You could really argue that it all traces back to this: we are born, we die, we grow old, and we get sick. We’re subject to change constantly from outer forces and inner forces. This is confusing and painful, and in the end, literally devastating.

The second section is called, “The Tribulations of Unreflective Living.” It contrasts the two possibilities of how our life turns out if we live consciously with a life of choice and practice, or if we live unconsciously, continuing with what comes naturally – that is, the ongoing, painful denial which is endemic to human life.

The third section is called “A World in Turmoil,” in which the implications for society of the human condition are discussed. So it’s a social view of Buddhist teaching.

The last section is called “Without Discoverable Beginning,” which says that this human condition is beginning-less. It’s interesting that in Western thought there’s automatically the assumption, “There must be a beginning, there must be a first cause.” But Buddha was content to say that there is no beginning; it just goes on and on and on. There is a conceivable ending, when suffering can be ended, but you can’t find the beginning.

That’s a little bit of an introduction to the geography of this section on the human condition. I’m going to take a few of the numerous snippets of the sutra and make some comments. This is the third short sutra under the first heading, “Old Age, Sickness, and Death,” and is called, “The Divine Messengers.”

There are, monks, three divine messengers. What three? There is a person of bad conduct in body, speech and mind. On the dissolution of the body after death, that person is reborn in the plane of misery, in a bad destination, in a lower world, in hell. And there in hell, the bosses of hell seize that person and they hold him in both arms and they take him to Yama, lord of death, and they present him to Yama and they say, “This person, Your Majesty, has no respect for father and mother nor for ascetics and brahmans, nor does he honor the elders of the family. May Your Majesty inflict dire punishment on him.

The idea here is that this list is basically an ancient Indian version of thoughtless and immoral conduct. In other words, this is a person who has not lived an ethical life, not lived a life of careful consideration, but has been living thoughtlessly. So his reward is that when he dies, he goes to hell and the lord of death is invited to punish him.

The Buddha says:

Then, monks, king Yama questions that man, examines him, and addresses him concerning the first divine messenger: “Didn’t you ever see, my good man, the first divine messenger appearing among humankind?” The person replies, “No, I didn’t.” Then King Yama says to him, “But, my good man, didn’t you ever see a woman or a man, eighty, ninety, or a hundred years old, frail, bent like a roof-bracket, crooked, leaning on a stick, shakily going along, ailing, youth and vigor gone, with broken teeth, with grey and scanty hair or bald, wrinkled with blotched limbs? Didn’t you ever see anything like that?” The man says, “Yes, yes, I’ve seen this, lord.” Then King Yama says to him, “My good man, didn’t it ever occur to you, an intelligent and mature person, ‘I too am subject to old age and cannot escape it. Let me now do noble deeds of body, speech and mind.'” And he says, “No, it never occurred to me. “I was negligent, I didn’t see that.”

And then precisely this same formula is repeated over again for the other divine messengers. In other words, the first divine messenger is old age, the second divine messenger is sickness, and the third is death.

So sickness, old age, and death, that are utter disasters from our point of view, are, in fact, divine messengers. The reason they’re called “divine messengers” is the story of the Buddha in which these exact things appear to him. He was spurred on to leave home and practice, because he noticed, “Yes, I too am subject to these things, so this is something that needs to be addressed.” And so the story goes that the old man that the Buddha saw, the old woman that the Buddha saw, and the dead corpse that the Buddha saw were actually gods who had come in disguise to show these things to the Buddha. So they were literally, according to the legend of the Buddha, divine messengers.

They are divine messengers exactly the same way for us, too, because sickness, old age, and death only appear as unmitigated disaster when we don’t wake up. If we are like the Buddha, and we practice and we wake up to how life really is, then we see that these things are not disasters. They are divine messengers, and we can appreciate them, and we can seize them as opportunities.

Now the reality of sickness, old age, and death doesn’t necessarily lead one to the conclusion that since this is inescapable, one should be a good person. In ancient India, in Buddha’s own time, and certainly our own time, people arrived at exactly the opposite conclusion. Since sickness, old age, and death is so disastrous and horrifying and inescapable, and because, fortunately, it happens usually later, we think, “Let’s have a good time now while we can! Why dwell on it? Why don’t we just forget about it and live well and eat well and drink well, and have a good time? Why worry about all this, and why do we think we have to be good, moral people just because we die? It’s not a foregone conclusion, is it, when you think about it. Why would that be the conclusion?”

Now there are a lot of Buddhists who feel that the belief in hells and heavens and past and future lives is an absolute necessity to make practice compelling. Unless you have the motivation to save yourself from bad rebirths, you’ll never practice. I remember when we created a study curriculum for Zen Center years ago, we asked one of our Tibetan advisors, who was one of the most learned Tibetan monastics then alive, “What do you think we should study first?” He said, “The first thing you have to study is the truth of past and future lives, because if everybody’s not convinced of that in the beginning, nobody will practice.” And we said, “This is really good advice,” and we politely explained to him that we didn’t think that that was how we were going to do it, and why.

Although I realize that there are many reports of people who can remember past lives, I will confess to you that I can’t really remember any of my past lives, and most people that I know can’t remember any past lives. So this must mean one of two things: either, number one, past and future lives don’t exist, or, number two, they do exist, but we don’t have any experience of it, so what’s the difference? Either way it seems to me that conventional ideas in Buddhism of past and future lives don’t matter all that much, unless you have grown up in a culture in which the whole way that people think is organized around faith in these ideas, in which case it really does matter to you, because your whole value system is built on it. But that’s not the case with most of us.

So even though I don’t have the experience, really, of past lives, I do have the experience – and it’s very vivid to me – of how painful it is when I act with thoughtlessness, or cruelty, or mean-spiritedness. It’s really painful to me, when I do that. When those actions reverberate back to me in a moment of reflection, or in memory, I can feel a pain that might be the equivalent of burning fires of hell. And the reverse is true. When I do something that is kind or loving or beneficial to others, I feel very directly the ease and joy and happiness that come from this.

One more aspect to the idea of past and future lives that I want to mention is that I think that, in the long run, as we continue to practice, it does become clear that practice is not simply a matter of who we are in this lifetime. If it’s true that meditation practice sensitizes us to the effect our conduct has on our hearts, it also begins to open up for us the feeling that there’s a wider scope and dimension to our lives than we had ever considered before.

When we really enter the breath and enter another rhythm – the rhythm that is really a universal rhythm of coming and going, rising and falling, in and out, and is the universal rhythm of life-when that becomes real and palpable to us, we see the stuff of our daily life. We see our habits and our confusion and our issues against a totally different backdrop. We realize that there’s a dimension to our lives that is much darker, deeper, and wider, than we can see and know.

If you’ve ever attended a birth or a death, you can feel this dimension quite palpably. You don’t have to be a meditator to notice this. You walk into a room where a new life is coming, or an old life is leaving this world, and it doesn’t feel like you’re walking into a baseball game or a tavern. It’s a completely different feeling; it’s very mysterious. If it’s a birth, you ask, “Where did this being come from, so fully formed not only in body but in character and spirit, with a full personality the moment that it comes out of the womb? How did that happen?” And in the case of death, you ask, “Where did this life go? What is death anyway? How could death be possible? How did it come so suddenly? We could say that death just means you become nothing, but what does that mean? What is nothing? What is nothing?”

Now the very first text in the first section is about how sickness, old age, and death are universal. No one escapes them, whether you’re a king, whether you’re a beggar. Whatever you are in this life, whatever your role is, you can’t escape sickness, old age and death. Even buddhas, even arhats, even great sages and wise perfected religious people, also are subject to sickness, old age and death. When you actually take that in, and you reflect on it for a minute, you realize that all human beings, indeed all living beings, are essentially one family, because the thing that is the most salient characteristic of us is that we’re born and we die. Whatever color our hair is or whatever our occupation is are very trivial compared to the fact that we all live and die. In that fact we are all exactly the same, and we face exactly the same challenges. We all share the tragedy of being.

So how is it that we feel alienated from others, that we don’t care about them, or that we think of them as threatening or different from us? How could that be? How could we not recognize ourselves as a member of a very, very, very intimate family that shares so much in common? And when we feel alienated from other people we know, we can just figure, “Oh, that means I forgot what I am! I forgot that I’m mortal.”

Verses from the Center – Talk 5 – 2004 Series

Norman gives his fifth and last talk on Stephen Batchelor’s book, Verses from the Center: A Buddshisdt Vision of the Sublime which reflects the poems of 2nd century philosopher and Narlanda Master, Nagarjuna.

Book reference: Versesd from the Center:  A Buddhist Vision of the Sublime by Stephen Batchelor

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Verses from the Center – Talk 4 – 2004 Series

Norman gives his fourth talk on Stephen Batchelor’s book, Verses from the Center: A Buddshisdt Vision of the Sublime which reflects the poems of 2nd century philosopher and Narlanda Master, Nagarjuna.

Book reference: Versesd from the Center:  A Buddhist Vision of the Sublime by Stephen Batchelor

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Verses from the Center – Talk 3 – 2004 Series

Norman gives his third talk on Stephen Batchelor’s book, Verses from the Center: A Buddshisdt Vision of the Sublime which reflects the poems of 2nd century philosopher and Narlanda Master, Nagarjuna.

Book reference: Verses from the Center:  A Buddhist Vision of the Sublime by Stephen Batchelor

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Verses from the Center – Talk 2 – 2004 Series

Norman gives his second talk on Stephen Batchelor’s book, Verses from the Center: A Buddshisdt Vision of the Sublime which reflects the poems of 2nd century philosopher and Narlanda Master, Nagarjuna.

Book reference: Verses from the Center:  A Buddhist Vision of the Sublime by Stephen Batchelor

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Verses from the Center – Talk 1 – 2004 Series

Norman gives his first talk on Stephen Batchelor’s book, Verses from the Center: A Buddshisdt Vision of the Subline which reflects the poems of 2nd century philosopher and Narlanda Master, Nagarjuna.

Book reference: Verses from the Center:  A Buddhist Vision of the Sublime by Stephen Batchelor

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 3rd Sutra – Kessaputa – Part 1

This is the third talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

Sutras from the Old Way – 3rd Sutra – Kessaputa
By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | Nov 30, 2002 (Part 2)
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

I will briefly summarize for those who weren’t here last time. The Buddha comes to a town, and the people in the town have a question for him. They say that many, many sages have been coming through town telling them their doctrines, and, at the same time, denigrating the doctrine of the person who just was through before him or her. They are confused about that and want to know, How do you tell, when people are saying all these different doctrines that contradict each other, how do you know what’s true and what’s not?

So the Buddha says to them,

Do not be misled by report or tradition or hearsay. Don’t be misled by proficiency in the collections (meaning the scriptures) nor by logic or inference nor after considering reasons, nor after reflection on and approval of some theory, nor because it fits becoming, nor out of respect for someone who gives the doctrine.

Reject all those things as criteria for the truth. Instead, know for yourself the following: Those things that are unprofitable (meaning that they would lead to suffering and anguish), those things that are blameworthy that would be understood by anybody to be blameworthy, those things that are censured by the intelligent people, these things, when you do them, will produce loss and sorrow.

So those things you should reject.

Then the Buddha shifts the ground of the conversation from metaphysics and philosophy to conduct. He says that the only thing that’s important is conduct. Conduct that creates suffering and confusion should be set aside. You will know for yourself, by your own experience, what kind of conduct that would be. The Buddha engages in a dialogue with them, in which, by checking with their own experience, they become clearer that when they act out of attachment, aversion, or confusion, and when their minds becomes attached to these states and these attitudes, they start acting in shabby ways.

So it’s clear that the most important thing is not to ascertain which doctrine is true and which doctrine is not true. The most important thing is to understand one’s own behavior and to know what causes suffering and what doesn’t cause suffering. One knows for oneself, not by listening to someone else, not by inference, not by scriptures, not by anything other than one’s own experience.

The next part is the same dialogue, except from the reverse point of view. In other words, in the previous dialogue, the Buddha spoke about attachment, aversion, and confusion as being states of mind that will lead to unprofitable actions and suffering. Now he’s talking about actions that flow from the absence of attachment, the absence of aversion, and the absence of confusion. The Buddha says that a person who is not overcome by attachment, not overcome by greed, having his mind under control, ceases from killing and stealing and breaking all sorts of moral rules. When a person is free from this kind of attachment and greed, doesn’t the person refrain from breaking all kinds of laws and precepts? What about when a person is free from aversion? Does that person break precepts and want to harm others and do all kinds of nefarious things? No, that person doesn’t.

Now Kalamas, the person who is a disciple, freed from grasping and malevolence ,who is not bewildered but is self-controlled (in other words peaceful and not irrationally flailing around in all directions) and mindful, with the heart possessed by good will, by compassion, by sympathy, by equanimity that is widespread, grown great and boundless, free from enmity and oppression, such a person, who has these qualities, abides suffusing one quarter of the world therewith, and likewise the second, third, and fourth quarter of the world.

He’s suggesting that based on the absence of attachment, aversion, and delusion, the Kalamas practice the cultivation of a boundless good will – usually translated as loving-kindness, or as metta, which is Pali for compassion, sympathy, and equanimity.

Compassion means that when I confront someone who is suffering, I feel their suffering. Sympathy, mudita, means that when I encounter a person who is joyful, I feel that person’s joy, and I share that joy as my own, instead of being jealous or trying to take away their happiness away. It is a natural human tendency if we see somebody doing well we want to diminish that somehow. The last practice is equanimity, to have an equally positive feeling, as much as we can, to everyone.

So these are four very particular practices called the four Unlimited Abodes – suffusing in all directions. In your meditation practice and in your conduct, you work on the cultivation of loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy and equanimity. You are boundlessly cultivating them in your inner life, and then also trying to put them into practice in your human relationships.

I recommend these practices, and there are many techniques for this. On your cushion it’s possible to breathe in with equanimity, and to breathe out a feeling that you’re wishing happiness and goodness to everyone—that each breath out is not just a physical breath, but it also carries with it your heartfelt wish that those you know, those you don’t know, will find happiness and release from suffering, that they will find safety, joy, and ease in living.

If you did that, the next time that you saw somebody that you didn’t like, and you started having nasty feelings about them, you would notice, Whoops, what am I doing! Here I’ve just spent the last month cultivating loving-kindness in my meditation practice. How can I take myself seriously when I’m going around denigrating and feeling so nasty about that person? I should either give up practicing loving-kindness and recognize that I’m really kidding myself, or try to see if I can actually manifest some loving-kindness in my relationships.

Similarly with compassion. This is a hard one, actually, the wish to take in another person’s suffering and wish deeply that it would be healed, even at your own expense. When you see people who are suffering, instead of, as we usually do, ignoring them or rushing by them, saying It’ll be fine, it’ll be fine, really feeling their suffering fully, taking it into ourselves, and allowing ourselves to be there with that uncomfortable feeling of their suffering. And then do whatever we can, either with our emotions, or with some actual activity to alleviate their suffering.

I think one finds that if you try to practice this way, you really notice how much of the opposite tendency is present in you. In other words, you see how common it is that instead of loving-kindness toward others, we have fear and loathing. How common it is that instead of compassion toward others, we’re really scared of other people’s suffering and we really want to avoid it. Instead of sympathetic joy for others’ joy, we really and truly feel envious and jealous and want to denigrate and diminish their happiness. And far from having a feeling of equanimity toward all beings, there are some people we really like, and then other people we really don’t like.

The Buddha is telling this to the Kalamas. They asked him, How are we supposed to know whether this guy’s telling the truth or that guy’s telling the truth, and we’re confused about doctrine? He’s telling them, Practice loving-kindness. Practice sympathetic joy. Practice compassion. If you want to know the truth, bring these things into your conduct, and then you’ll see in your living what’s true and what’s not true.

And at the end of his teaching ,he says to them, If you do these practices, and you really get good at them, you will attain four comforts. There will be four benefits from doing this.

First of all, if there be a world beyond (meaning life after death), if there be fruit and ripening of deeds done well or ill (in other words, if karma and rebirth is actually true), then when the body breaks up after death, I shall be reborn in the happy lot, in the heaven world.

This is really interesting , because in many sutras the Buddha’s enlightenment is described, as seeing his own past lives. So in other words, here the Buddha is saying if that’s true—he’s not assuming that it’s true; he’s saying, Should that be true. It’s as if he’s saying, Don’t get too literal about past lives, because it’s not something that is necessarily true. It may be true, but maybe it’s not. The point is that if you practice the Four Unlimiteds, there will arise in you a kind of serene confidence, that whether or not there rebirth is true, you’re okay.

So here the Buddha’s willing to entertain the idea that maybe there aren’t any past lives. But still, in this lifetime there’ll be a kind of satisfaction and happiness, regardless of what you think happens afterward. And that’s a comfort, because all of us, to some extent, suffer from the feeling, Well, I’m not so sure what a great person I really am. I’m not so sure what my life really amounts to. So it would be a great feeling that even though we’re all limited in our own ways, the life that I am leading and have led is a beautiful life, used as well as this life could be used.

Third, though as a result of action, ill be done by me, yet do I plan no ill to anyone, and if I do no ill, how shall sorrow touch me?

In other words, even if inadvertently I cause harm, which is very possible to do. Even though you cultivate these good intentions and good wishes, you might cause harm. And when we cause harm, we become guilty and upset, and oftentimes causing harm causes us to cause further harm. You feel bad about it, and you have many ambivalent feelings about it, so then you get mad at somebody else, and you cause more harm. And you go on and on causing harm because of the deep-seated anxiety and self-denigration that comes from causing harm.

So here the Buddha is saying that if you should create harm, you won’t have that problem, because you’ll know that you didn’t intend it. You’ll be aware of having cultivated positive intentions, that if your actions should create harm, you’ll know it was not due to your intentions, and you’ll feel confident that you don’t have to worry or be upset about it.

The fourth comfort to be attained is:

If as a result of action no ill be done by me, then in both ways do I behold myself utterly pure.

The Buddha tells the Kalamas that these are are these four practices. Please do them. If you do them you’ll have this kind of serene confidence about your life, and even perhaps about what happens after your life.

Thus, Kalamas, that disciple whose heart is free from enmity, free from oppression, untainted and made pure in this very life attains these four comfort.

So this is a theme that comes up many times in the Old Way Sutras. It shows that the Buddha was really interested in conduct, how we live. Our conduct, which is an outward thing, can only be dependent on our inward attitudes. The Buddha really saw this, that there is a powerful and obvious connection between how we feel inside and what we do outside. We have to work on both of these things, and that working on those things is the most important human project. Various speculations about what’s true and what’s not true are usually not worth engaging in. He is saying, It’s not important what these people say and what’s right or wrong. Don’t worry about that. Believe only what flows from your conduct. The truth is in the living of the truth, it’s not in an abstraction of the truth. In this case, he’s saying that cultivating kindness, compassion, sympathy for others is what’s most important.

In Soto Zen, our practice is Bodhidharma’s practice: to face the wall and just sit. But I think it would be good if you wanted to take up the practice of metta or some practice like tonglen, which is a compassion practice. If you really read carefully, and think carefully about the dharma talks that you hear in our tradition, you will soon realize that sitting facing the wall, being present, breathing with the faith that you are already Buddha, includes all these practices and is really not different from them.

This is how I look at it: trust this basic sitting practice, and always return to it, and use it as the fundamental basis. I think it would be alright for you to begin your sitting practice with posture and breathing, calming your mind, being present, and then introduce, if you wanted to, some other practice like loving-kindness, or tonglen.

But it’s not sufficient to practice these things only on your meditation cushion. The point of doing it on your meditation cushion is so that you would also do it in the context of your relationships. And it’s a challenge, because often you become quite impressed with the extent to which you are defending yourself, and thinking, Well, loving-kindness is fine, but not now, not here! Not with her, not with him! Not in this situation! This is real life, not loving-kindness now! You see that you think that way. And then it’s a challenge to really let go, so much that you could really be loving and you could be free. This is some kind of a human ideal that I think is attainable. We need to be patient with ourselves along the path of it, but I believe it’s possible, and it’s worth a try. Actually, being stuck in our self-defensiveness and fear and so forth is not that much fun and doesn’t help that much.

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Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 2nd Sutra – Fingersnap

This is the second talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

Sutras from the Old Way – 2nd Sutra – Fingersnap
By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | Nov 30, 2002
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

“The Fingersnap” is an obscure sutra, which I wouldn’t have found without the help of my friends in the Western Buddhist Order. Sangharakshita, who’s the founder of the order, thinks it’s important, because one of the purposes of the book is to show the continuity between the Mahayana and the “Old Way,” the original way of Buddhism.

The Buddha begins by saying that the nature of mind is luminous, “This mind, oh monks, is luminous,” meaning “bright, shining, full of light.” That’s the nature of mind, but it gets obscured and covered over by defilements, but its nature is brightness. This is a saying in the Pali canon, but it’s very much like the Mahayana Buddhist idea of buddha nature that we’re all so familiar with. There’s not so much difference between saying “this mind is inherently luminous” and saying “all sentient beings have Buddha nature.”

This mind, monks, is luminous, but it is defiled by taints that come from without. But this mind the uneducated many-folk understand not as it really is. Therefore for the uneducated many-folk there is no cultivation of the mind, I declare.

So this is archaic language, but it just means ordinary people don’t understand that the nature of the mind is luminous, and that it has been covered over by defilements that are not inherent to it, that are not necessary, and can be removed. They’re not built in to the nature of mind. Quite the opposite, the nature of mind is light and enlightened, but people, not realizing this, take for granted the way that the mind appears to them, and so they don’t make the effort to remove these taints, find out how they got there, and reverse them.

So you may think, “Now wait a minute! Didn’t the Buddha teach that the nature of conditioned existence is suffering? Isn’t that the opposite of this? Doesn’t that sound like the nature of mind is not luminous but messed up?” Well, not really, because what the Buddha said was the nature of conditioned existence is suffering, but then he says that when you discover how this comes about, you can be free of that conditioning by virtue of the path.

Even though the first noble truth is rather shocking and stark in a way—”The very nature of conditioned existence is suffering”—I think it’s a way to get our attention. There are two things we really need to get, I think, in order to practice. We really need to get that, first of all, our nature is luminous, we have the potential and the nature of awakening. But also we have to get how thoroughly it’s going to take some effort to remove the taints and return to the luminous nature of our mind. So, therefore, it’s very skillful for the Buddha to have made this very strong and dismaying statement, “The nature of conditioned existence is suffering, is to be tainted.”

Then the Buddha repeats:

This mind, monks, is luminous, but it can be cleansed of these same taints that come from without. [In other words, that are not inherent to it, that they can be removed.]

This, the educated disciple understands as it really is. Wherefore, for the educated disciple, there is cultivation of the mind, I declare.

Monks , if just for the lasting of a fingersnap…

Believe it or not, “fingersnap” is a scientific term in Buddhism. It’s technically the shortest possible length of time. They were very interested in the nature of mind and time. The idea was that mind would flash into existence with all of its constellated components, would flash out of existence, and then another mind would flash into existence. We think the life we are living has continuity, but actually it doesn’t. It’s like a film. Little, still pictures flash on and off and make our life look like it’s continuous.

…you (the practitioner) would indulge…

The translation is not too good. What it means is that if, just for an instant, you stumbled by accident on the thought of goodness or a positive thought —not intending to do anything about it – you would be a true cultivator. “Monk” here means a worthy cultivator of the Way.

… not empty of result is his musing.

In other words, his or her meditation practice is worthwhile because of that one instant of a wholesome thought.

He abides doing the Master’s bidding.

This means that he’s really following Buddha’s way, just by virtue of the fact that for an instant one thought of goodness crossed his mind.

What, then, should I say of those who make much of such a thought?

So, in other words, if somebody, who just stumbles into an instant a thought of good will is a worthy person, what about somebody who does more than stumble into it, but cultivates such a thought and pursues it and strengthens it? The next paragraphs repeat the same idea with exactly the same words, except that the person is doing a little bit more in that instant. In the first instance he just bumps into the thought. In the second instance he intentionally tries to cultivate that thought of good will. In the third instance he’s cultivating it with even more diligence.

Monks, if just for the lasting of a fingersnap, a monk cultivates a thought of good will, such a one is to be called a monk. Not empty of result is his musing. He abides doing the Master’s bidding. He is one who takes advice and eats the country’s alms-food to some purpose. What then should I say of those who make much of such a thought?

The monk understanding this would cultivate and be active in trying to uncover the luminous nature of the mind.

Monks, whatsoever things are evil (better to say “unwholesome” or “leading to suffering”)

Whatever phenomena – inside or outside – are unwholesome and cause suffering. The mind is the ultimate cause of thoughts and feelings.

First arises mind as the forerunner of them, and then all the rest of the unprofitable, unwholesome things will follow.

So this is a curious and important thing here. The nature of the mind is luminous, and the taints – the defilements that mess up this luminous mind – are adventitious, which is to say they’re not inherent. They’re added from outside. And yet, at the same time, the cause of all those things is ultimately the mind itself. So that’s good! Because it means we can change the way we work with, operate with, understand, and function with our mind.

Monks, I know not of any other single thing of such power to cause the arising of all of these unwholesome suffering states when they haven’t arisen, or to cause the waning of the good states, in case they should arise, as negligence.

“Unwholesome” means lack of mindfulness, carelessness, not paying attention, not being aware. So the power of lack of mindfulness is great. And of course, the next thing is the opposite statement, which is that the power of diligent mindfulness.

Monks, I know not of any other single thing of such power to cause the arising of good states that haven’t yet arisen or to cause the waning of negative states that have arisen as earnestness. [Or, I would say, diligence in mindfulness, diligence in awareness.]

In the person who is earnest, good states, if not yet arisen, do arise, and negative states, if arisen, will wane. Monks, I know not of any other single thing of such power to cause the arising of evil states, if not yet arisen, or to cause the waning of good states, if arisen, as indolence, laziness. In the person who is indolent these negative states not yet arisen do arise and the good states if arisen o wane.

So this is a talk to the monks to spur them on to action, and hopefully it does that for us, too. We think to ourselves that it’s really the truth. These things seem true to me. Don’t they seem true to you? It really is true that people are good, that we all have within us, everyone without exception, a beautiful power of goodness. And everyone, probably without exception, has not brought that potential out to the fullest. And some of us haven’t brought it out hardly at all! So the power of a diligent mindfulness, to pay attention, can increase the light. And not paying attention can decrease it. And it’s such a beautiful thing to increase the light. Don’t we all want to do that? And don’t we want to be diligent in our practice, so that we can more and more have that kind of light and lightness in our lives?

The Buddha says that all of the negativity in the world comes from the mind, so that when we take care of our mind and our practice, on some deep and fundamental level, it’s not just our own self that we’re taking care of, but we’re reducing, to whatever extent possible, the sum total of negativity in this world, and we’re increasing, to whatever extent we can, the sum total of the light in the world.

So this is really good news, because it means that we don’t have to look in dismay at this large, out-of-control world and think, “What can we do, a poor small person such as ourselves, with very little resources and capacity to influence policy? My God it’s hopeless!” But this is saying, no, that your capacity to work with your mind and increase the light of the world matters, that it does have an effect. Maybe we don’t know exactly how or how much, but it does have an effect. It’s worth pursuing in some way for one’s own happiness, and,¡¡¡ maybe in some way that we can’t understand, the happiness of others as well.

[Question: I’ve studied Theravadin and Tibetan and Zen traditions, and my understanding is that there are a whole bunch of words for mind in Tibetan, and I have no idea whether that’s true in Pali, but when at the beginning it says “This mind, monks, is luminous,” and then later when it says that mind is what causes evil things to arise, do you think that they’re using the same word for mind there? Because it seems to me that they’re not.]

You’re bringing up a really good point, and when you’re working in translation it’s very hard to get down to that level of detail. Of course, it’s very important, but you really can’t do it because you’re dependent on the translator’s choices. But I think your point is very well taken that there are numerous words in Pali and Tibetan and Sanskrit and Chinese for mind, all of which are really fundamentally untranslatable, because we’re talking about very subtle issues here. But I think what you’re pointing out is probably quite true, that in the first instance what’s being talked about is the fundamental nature of mind, and in the second instance what’s being talked about is the mind’s manifestations as created by karma. So those to things are not exactly different from each other, and in fact there’s confusion, as far as my knowledge goes, and that’s not very far, even in Sanskrit and Pali, as in English, the same word is used to denote different things. In other words, the word citta in Sanskrit means mind and the nature of mind, and it also means a thought. So the ambiguity is, I think, deliberate, because there is no mind, as an entity, apart from the function of mind.

So sometimes you’re referring to mind as its fundamental nature, but there really isn’t such a thing as the fundamental nature of mind without the functioning of mind, because if you drop dead and there’s no functioning body, there’s no functioning mind because there’s no functioning—mind doesn’t exist without functioning. So that’s why the ambiguity is even in the original languages, and it’s on purpose. In a way, we’re looking at one thing which has many aspects that can never be separated, but in language we’re speaking of it in this aspect or that aspect, and so the confusion is kind of built in to the way things are. So thank you for bringing that up.

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Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 3rd Sutra – Kessaputta – Part 2

This is part 2 of the fourth talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

 

Sutras from the Old Way – 3rd Sutra – Kessaputa
By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | Nov 30, 2002 (Part 1)
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum
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The next sutra is called “Those of Kesaputta.” This is a sutra that speaks directly

with phrases like, “Be a lamp unto yourself,” “Rely on yourself,” “Don’t believe anybody else,” and ” Know from your own experience.” These phrases are often cited as Buddha’s primary attitude.

Thus have I heard. On a certain occasion the Exalted One (one of the many epithets for the Buddha) while going about his rounds among the Kosalans with a great company of monks came to Kesaputta, a district of the Kosalans.

One of the things that I like about these sutras is there are many stories and many details about the Buddha’s life and personality that come through. They’re not the main point of the sutras, but I find them very interesting, because it gives you a flavor for how the Buddha lived and what he was like and how he handled the events of his life.

The Mahayana sutras are mythical and cosmic. You don’t get any sense of the Buddha as a person, and that’s, of course, quite on purpose. But here you do, so this is interesting to me, because it tells you how the Buddha lived. He would wander around. He was homeless, but as a homeless person who was homeless on purpose. He would wander around with just one or two fellow monks or with larger groups. Sometimes several groups would come together for an event or teaching or ceremony. In the winter time, when it rained, it was very hard to walk around, and they would all get together in one spot and have a special period of meditation and practice, which in Zen became the ango, the practice period. They actually call a practice period in Theravada Buddhism “a rains”! If you want to ask somebody how long they’ve been a monk or a nun, you say “How many rains have you?” And they say, “I have twenty-two rains.” That means they’ve been a monk for twenty-two years, every year doing retreat.

Now the Kalamas of Kesaputta heard it said that Gotama, the recluse, the Sakyans’ son, who went forth as a wanderer from the Sakyan clan, had reached Kesaputta. He it is, the Exalted One, Arahant, a fully enlightened one, perfect in knowledge and practice. It were indeed a good thing to get sight of such arahants.

In the beginning, the Buddha wasn’t particularly famous or well known, but at this point, apparently, he has a large company of monks travelling with him, and he’s now well known. So when they hear that the Buddha’s coming, although he’s probably been there before, still, they’re excited. Just to catch sight of him is going to be a very wonderful event.

So the Kalamas of Kesaputta came to see the Exalted One. On reaching him, some saluted the Exalted One (with a bow, probably, not a military salute) and sat down at one side, some greeted the Exalted One courteously (apparently meaning short of a prostration) and after exchange of greetings and courtesies, sat down at one side, some raised their joined palms to the Exalted One and sat down at one side . . .

These are various ways of greeting, apparently in some sort of graduated form, some of which are more pious and more intimate than others.

. . . some proclaimed their name and clan and did likewise, while others without saying anything just sat down at one side. Then as they thus sat, the Kalamas of Kesaputta said this to the Exalted One:

Sir, certain recluses and brahmins come to Kesaputta. As to their own view, they proclaim and expound it in full. But as to the view of others, they abuse it, revile it, deprecate it and cripple it. Moreover, sir, other recluses and brahmins, on coming to Kesaputta do the same thing. When we listen to them, we have doubt and wavering as to which of these worthies is speaking truth and which speaks falsehood.

This is not an unusual thing. In fact, this is how we know what we think. I know what I think because it’s not what you think! And you’re wrong! That’s the nature of assertion, right, we’re always asserting something, and whatever one asserts is always in opposition to what someone else might assert, or a counter-assertion. So there’s always an assertion and a counter-assertion, and this is human discourse and human dialogue. It becomes confusing, and it also sometimes becomes disastrously hurtful as the one person feels disrespected and denigrated by the person who’s expressing a counterview in an uncomplimentary way. And people get in fights over this, they go to war over these sorts of things!

Anyway, that’s just what was going on here. Only here, the only result of it was that the Kalamas were confused. The Buddha came and they asked him about it.

Yes, Kalamas, you may well doubt, you may well waver. In a doubtful matter, wavering does arise.

So he begins by appreciating their confusion. The Buddha never says in these sutras Sometimes I’m confused myself! Maybe he did, but they didn’t report it later. Anyway, he appreciates that it is a doubtful and difficult situation. So now the Buddha is going to, he hopes, give them some useful ways of unraveling this situation.

Now look, you Kalamas don’t be misled (and this is a very famous line in the sutra) by report or tradition or hearsay. Don’t be misled by proficiency in the collections (meaning religious texts) nor by mere logic or inference, nor after considering reasons, nor after reflection on and approval of some theory, nor because it fits becoming (it seems right), nor out of respect for a recluse who holds the view.

Don’t believe something because it’s an age-old respected tradition. Don’t believe it because it was reported that some important person said so, or it is reported that it’s really true. Don’t be misled by people who can quote scriptures right and left and seem to be very proficient. Don’t believe it because it’s logical. Don’t believe it because it seems true by inference. Don’t believe it after considering reasons or thinking about it, or believing in a theory from which it comes. And don’t believe it because the person who’s saying it is very charismatic and convincing.

But, Kalamas, when you know for yourselves these things are unprofitable (meaning, cause suffering, cause trouble), these things are blameworthy, these things are censured by the intelligent, these things when done create loss and sorrow . . .

So he’s not giving any of the ordinary criteria for discerning the truth or falsity of a statement. In effect, he’s saying that it doesn’t matter what anybody says. That’s not important. Whether something is true or false is unimportant. What’s important is whether or not you take a statement, act on it, and then whether it causes suffering and difficulty. In other words, the proof is in the pudding. The truth is in when you make use of it, and you take it in, and you discover that it causes suffering and trouble. Then you reject it. He doesn’t even say it’s not true. He’s just saying, it’s not important whether it’s true or not, you reject it when it causes pain and suffering.

Now, what do you think, Kalamas? When greed, attachment, arises within someone, is this beneficial or troublesome? Does this lead to good things happening or bad things happening?

They say, Bad things. They apparently respond right away, because they’ve had experience. They’ve all lived, and they’ve see that that’s really true. When they have greediness and obsessive desire for something, it doesn’t go well.

Now, Kalamas, does not the person who becomes overcome with attachment and desire in this way, obsession, lose control of his or her conduct? Doesn’t he kill a living creature, take what is not given, go after another person’s spouse, tell lies and lead another into such as state as causes his loss and sorrow for a long time?

In other words, these are the precepts. Doesn’t the person who is driven by obsession acts in an immoral way, causing trouble, break the precepts?

Now what do you think, Kalamas, when the opposite of this, when obsessive hatred or aversion arises within a person, is this a good thing, does this lead to good results or bad results?

You can imagine that in a small village all these things are completely understood. That’s right, when there’s malice like that, when a person can’t overcome it, it doesn’t go well. There is precept-breaking, and that does lead to trouble.

So listen to what’s going on here: they’re asking him about what’s true, and he’s talking about conduct. He’s not talking about metaphysical truths; he’s talking about how people conduct themselves. He’s saying the way that people conduct themselves – meaning we ourselves – the way that we conduct ourselves, and what we find from noticing the states of mind that lead to this kind of conduct, is the only thing important to discern. When it comes to truth or falsehood, it’s all irrelevant other than that. He doesn’t say that directly, but that’s the implication of what he’s talking about here.

These are the famous three poisons: greed, hate and delusion. Or attachment, aversion, confusion – however you name them. Same formula. When delusion comes up, is this a good or bad thing? No, we know it’s bad. When a person is deluded, doesn’t the person have bad conduct leading to trouble? Yes, he does. In the beginning he said that things that lead to bad results are “censured by the intelligent and wise” and are things to be rejected.

So, then, Kalamas, as to my words to you just now, be ye not mislead by proficiency in the collections, nor mere logic or inference, nor after considering reasons, nor after reflection on and approval of some theory, nor because it is fitting or out of respect for a recluse who holds it, but, Kalamas, when you know for yourselves these things are unprofitable, these things are blameworthy, these things are censured by the intelligent, these things, when performed and undertaken conduce to loss and sorrow, then indeed you reject them.

So the other thing that I get out of this, which is important to me, and I think by implication a key point that the Buddha’s making here is, is how are you going to find out what is true? By studying your own bitter suffering and the suffering of those around you. The only way you’re going to find out if a certain state of mind leads to these unwholesome and unprofitable and sorrowful actions is because you’ve done that! And you’ve seen it. Then you know for yourself.

I think what he’s saying is that when you have negative states of mind and troublesome things happening in your life, instead of running away from that, thinking that it’s a mistake, or blaming yourself or somebody else, you should study that. Because that’s exactly how you’re going to find out what it is you have to let go of. How did I get into this mess? What happened? What was I thinking? What were the conditions that caused me to think that? Now that I’m really looking at what has happened here, I’m beginning to understand that when I look at things in this way, and begin to proceed with my speech and action based on that view, this is the kind of thing that happens, and I’m really getting tired of it now, and I think maybe, through the study of my own suffering, maybe I’ve gotten a little wiser.

So that’s what he’s saying. The way you ascertain what’s true: A) it has to do with conduct, not with metaphysical assertions; B) it’s something you discern from your experience, not from your thinking (although there’s thinking involved, because you reflect on your experience, but really, it’s about your experience); and C) you discover it by studying your own suffering.

So that’s what he’s telling the Kalamas when they’re complaining about all these wise men and women coming into town with all their doctrines: look to your conduct, study your suffering, validate for yourself.

Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 1st Sutra – Four Noble Truths

In his first talk on the Pali Canon sutras, Zoketsu discusses the teaching on the Four Noble Truths. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

Sutras from the Old Way – 1st Sutra – Four Noble Truths
By Zoketsu Norman Fischer | Nov 30, 2002
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

Some years ago, I and some other colleagues at Zen Center participated in creating a study curriculum for Zen Center, which would be not only a study of Zen texts per se, but a study of all of Buddhism that would be relevant to a Zen practitioner. We thought that it would be very important for people who study Zen to know some basic teachings from the Pali Canon, since this is part of our practice as well.

So we made a compendium of a selection of teachings from the Pali Canon, not necessarily the most important ones, or the greatest ones, but the ones that we thought were important. We created a little book called “Sutras from the Old Way.”

In the beginning of this book there’s an introduction to the selections that I want to read and comment on. There’s a text called Hokyoki, which is the journal of Dogen’s studies with his teacher that he kept when he was a young man studying in China. When Dogen heard his teacher say “Drop off body and mind!” he had his awakening experience. So this phrase, “drop off body and mind,” is a kind of a code for Dogen for the essence of the meaning of Buddhism, the essence of the meaning of Buddha’s mind or teaching. His teacher, Rujing, said, “Dropping off body and mind is zazen. When you do just sitting, you are free from the five sense desires and the five hindrances.”

Dogen was astonished to hear his teacher say that zazen is already the essence of Buddha’s mind. This is maybe not surprising to us, but it might be surprising to hear that it’s also the same thing as being free from the five sense desires and the five hindrances. So he’s saying, “Are we supposed to be practicing not just Zen but also the old way?” And the Master said, “Descendants of ancestors (meaning Zen students) should not exclude the teachings of either vehicle. If students ignore the Tathagata’s sacred teachings, how can they become the descendants of buddha-ancestors?

So there were, and still are, some Zen people who advocate Forget studies, forget Buddhism, it’s just the insight from the cushion! But Dogen wasn’t one like that. He actually advocated studying Buddhism. He didn’t even like to talk about Soto Zen or even Zen. He said we’re just doing Buddhism, just doing buddha-dharma.

I believe, and many scholars agree, that the later developments of Buddhism – Mahayana Buddhism and tantric Buddhism and Zen – are not contradictory to these early teachings. They’re simply developing and bringing out aspects of the teachings. Much of everything that you find in Buddhism is really found in the early teachings, in either explicit or in implicit form.

So having said that, I thought we’d start at the beginning with the first sutra, the Sutra on Setting in Motion the Wheel of Dharma. It is said that this is the first sermon that the Buddha gave after his awakening.

Thus have I heard.

As everyone here no doubt knows, that line is spoken by Ananda. Every Buddhist sutra begins with Ananda, who remembered everything that the Buddha ever taught.

Once the Blessed One, the Buddha, was staying in the Deer Park in Isipatana near Varanasi.

I was just talking to a friend the other day who’s about to go to India. I once went to India, and I went to this place—you can go there, maybe some of you have been there—the Deer Park outside of Varanasi, where there is a great stupa. It’s kind of amazing. I’m not that sentimental myself, but somehow when I went outside Varanasi to the Deer Park and saw this circumambulating the great stupa at the Deer Park, I just burst into tears.

The Buddha addressed the bhikkhus of the group of five, the five ascetics that I was mentioning.

There are two extremes which should not be followed, bhikkhus, by someone who has gone forth (that means, gone forth into the religious life and given up worldly pursuits and seeking truth). One extreme is pursuing sense-pleasure, which is low, vulgar, worldly, ignoble and produces no useful result.

He is talking about excessive profligacy and hedonistic indulgence. I think the Buddha recognized that there is grabbiness – so much desire and thirsting and craving – even in very ordinary states of mind and average, everyday experience. Grabbiness is that kind of attachment, that kind of thirsting and craving within any sensual experience. It is not just overeating, or overdrinking, or overindulging in this or that, but any time you see or hear or taste or touch. If you are craving and grasping and pursuing that experience, that’s one extreme. The other extreme is the opposite of that: devotion to self-denial. Here he’s telling this to the ascetics, right? They need to hear this!

With practice you see how subtle craving is. You begin to see that craving, and this kind of thirsting that he’s talking about, is the cause of suffering. It’s not that one action is bad and one action is good. It becomes clearer to you: Oh, I see, as soon as I have this kind of grasping, very quickly after that, I have suffering. I didn’t really see it before, but now I see how unsuccessful and how kind of stupid the way that I’ve been conducting myself was.

The problem with the language of some of these texts is that they sound as if what’s being advocated is a kind of self-denial or tremendous discipline and restraint. But, no, I think what’s being indicated is a kind of simple and quiet enjoyment of one’s life, absent this kind of craving and grasping. And seeing the difference takes some subtlety. It actually takes some sensitivity to one’s own experience, and I think, realistically, some time and discipline of practice. One’s pleasure in this or that is relative to one’s own sensitivity and one’s own mind, one’s own spirit. So as you develop your mind and your spirit, you find ways of enjoying very simple things, and you realize that to crave and take more than is necessary is actually uncomfortable.

The opposite is devotion to self-denial, which is painful, ignoble, and produces no useful result. Avoiding both these extremes, bhikkhus, the middle way that the Tathagata has awakened to gives vision and insight-knowledge, and leads to peace, profound understanding, full realization, and to nibbana.

So he’s saying that one extreme is worldly life, which is the pursuit of accumulation of things and experience – the affirmation and building on desire. The opposite of that, retreat into a religious life, would be full of self-denial and the demonization of worldly things. What we’re looking for, he says, is a kind of way of life that brings us pleasure in the sense of peacefulness and stability and sustainability. He didn’t always speak of the middle way in this particular way, but I think he spoke of this initially because he was addressing ascetics, who exactly saw these two extremes. They demonized the world; they were trying to mortify their flesh, because it was somehow wrong or bad.

So, then, the basic question: What is the middle way? How do you live that?And what is the middle way that the Tathagata has awakened to, which gives vision and insight-knowledge, and leads to peace, profound understanding, full realization, and to nibbana? It is the eightfold path; that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration. This is the middle way that the Tathagata has awakened to.I’m not that big a fan of the word “right” here, because it evokes a strait-laced attitude. I think that this word actually means “attuned,” or “aligned,” not “askew.” If something is “right,” it means it’s straightforward. It’s perfectly aligned and attuned.

This is saying is that the middle way requires a whole way of life, which has many different aspects to it. In each aspect one should strive for a kind of attunement, where you’re not leaning to one side or the other. Religious practice can be just another avenue for greed and delusion; all the things that you can do in the world you can do exactly in the same way in religious practice! So he’s saying be attuned, be aligned with reality as it really is. Don’t be fighting it. Align yourself with it. That’s the way to be peaceful; that’s the way to be happy.

In your views, in the way that you look at things and understand things, you align and attune your views away from selfishness, away from avoidance, and toward a kind of accurate and clear acceptance of what is. And then, when you have a view like that, your mind and heart will produce the proper intentions based on accurate views. You have intentions that are in tune with what’s best in you as a human being. The words that come out of your mouth will be helpful and beautiful, and not nasty and negative.

When you speak words like that, it will inspire you towards action, which is also attuned and aligned, and when you have attuned and aligned action, naturally you’ll want to have a way of life, a way of earning your daily alms, that will be righteous and not harm others.

When you have all that taken care of, you’ll want to make the right kind of effort to practice meditation. Then you’ll practice awareness in your daily life, and that awareness you’ll also take to your cushion, where you’ll be able to practice a strong concentration. And that strong concentration will deepen your mind and deepen the subtlety of your understanding, so that you will have views that are even more accurate and more aligned with the way things are.

In other words, the eightfold path, the program that he’s laying out here, is an endless program of going back to living your life with an ever greater degree of clarity, understanding, and alignment with reality and with what is.Then he teaches the bhikkhus the first formulation of the four noble truths:

Bhikkhus there is a noble truth about dissatisfaction.

This famous “dissatisfaction” is translated many other ways. “Suffering” is usually the way that you hear the word dukkha translated. This is the first truth. It is the recognition that all conditioned things have the nature of suffering. In later sutras it becomes clear that when he says “the noble truth of dissatisfaction,” what he means is that this is the nature of conditioned existence – not just things we don’t like, or certain things we would call suffering. He’s saying, Suffering is a lot more pervasive than you think it is. The word dukkha means that even if things are going well, there is dissatisfaction, there’s a little anxiety. You know that feeling: I can’t believe things are going so well, what’s going to happen next? The anxiety that’s inherent in existing in a human world with an impermanent mind and body.

The Buddha gives a few really good instances of what he means by dissatisfaction or suffering.

Birth is a problem.

It’s true, you know. When you’re born you have many problems right away, and they continue. So even coming into the world in the first place is a problem. We know this because everybody who comes into the world starts crying immediately when they get there, because it’s a shock. It’s a big shock and trauma to come into the world after you’ve been floating around in space, in this wonderful situation of total love and belonging. All of a sudden, somebody says, Alright now, breathe. And don’t stop until you die. This is a shock! It’s a problem! It’s a lot of work. Then there are all kind of problems: they make you go to school, you have to learn relationships, and you have to get a job! Even if everything goes well, you still have those problems.

Then, if you’re born, you’re going to age. Aging is difficult. The older you get, different things start not working. It’s very hard. And then, you have to die. All these things are a consequence of being born. People think, Oh, she died of cancer. Well, that’s not really true, she didn’t die of cancer, she died of life! If she were never born, she wouldn’t die. Cancer is an incidental cause of death. The real cause of death is birth.So this is all a big problem. Then there’s sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair that come into every human life, no matter what. These things are also unpleasant and difficult.

In brief, the five grasped aggregates are unsatisfactory.

“The grasped aggregates” mean you. In other words, being a person with sense organs, a mind, emotions, impulses, in an impermanent body. This is a drastically unworkable situation. Recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom, the beginning of happiness, the beginning of real pleasure. If you don’t recognize this, you’re already doomed, because then you’re going to be looking for some sort of quick fix, some sort of band-aid. This is going to be your problem: you’re going to be putting a band-aid on that which is a bigger wound than a band-aid can fix. And the more you keep doing that, your frustration is only going to grow as time goes on. At first you might think, Oh, good! I put the band-aid on, and I feel much better now. But as time goes on, the wound is bigger, and the band-aid is not working, and you become much more unhappy. So you first have to realize the fix you’re in, as it really is.

The Four Noble Truths are set up as the most simple form of logic, almost like a medical diagnosis. First of all, what is the disease; then what causes the disease; then find a way to remove the cause; and then, finally, there’s health. So that’s basically what the four noble truths are saying.

So the second truth is the cause. What is the cause of this condition? It is desire.

Or, I would say, clinging, grasping, craving, endlessly wanting – something more or different from what’s there. This is the human condition. That’s what moves us forward: grasping and clinging and desiring something that isn’t there.

This clinging and craving and grasping gives rise to relish and passion, running here and there, delighting in this and that. This might sound good, actually, to most of us! That’s not so bad! Passion? Excellent! Running around here and there? I like to travel! Delighting in this and that? Why not! But he’s saying, that’s exactly the point. We like all that. We hear that, and we think, Oh, that’s really good! But that is the problem. We don’t understand the real nature, the fundamental nature, of our conditioned existence, and so we’re following our craving and our grasping and our desires. We are running around, delighting in this and that.

Bhikkhus, there is the noble truth of the cessation of suffering.

It is the complete fading away and cessation. It is the quieting, I would say, the calming, the spaciousness that can surround this kind of clinging and desire. When that happens, there is abandonment and relinquishment. There’s freedom, peace, ease, and joy.

That’s possible. How? He then repeats the noble eightfold path, which he mentioned earlier: right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration.

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Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 4th Sutra – Megihya – Part 1

This is part 1 of the fourth talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

Sutras from the Old Way 4 (Part 1)
Zoketsu Norman Fischer
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

There are many, many, sutras in the Pali Canon. They’re all worth reading, but the reason I made this selection is that I figured it’s too much for most people to read, and so if people wanted to read a particular selection, it would be nice to have one. But I chose each sutra for a particular reason. Sometimes the reason was because it gave teachings that were particularly important, but sometimes the reason wasn’t so much in the teaching per se, but in the way that you get a feeling for the Buddha’s personality and his activity: how he acted and how he was as a person.

In this sutra you really get a feeling for how Buddha handled his disciples, and that’s one reason why I chose it. The other reason why I chose it is that in this sutra the Buddha emphasizes something very important in our practice, but not so often mentioned this directly, and that is the importance of our practice relationships and how key they are in our spiritual development.

Thus have I heard. On a certain occasion the Exalted One (meaning the Buddha) was staying at Calika, on Calika Hill. Now on that occasion, the venerable Meghiya was in attendance on the Exalted One.

Meghiya was taking care of the Buddha, and they were in close proximity to each other. It is clear, as we’ll see in a moment, that the Buddha and Meghiya are wandering, just the two of them.

Then the venerable Meghiya came to the Buddha, and coming to him saluted him and stood at one side. As he thus stood, he said to the Buddha, “I desire, sir, to enter Jantu village for alms-quest.”

So this is the formality of how, even though there’s just the two of them, the code of conduct of the order was such that the Buddha was accorded this kind of respect. We think of formality as a distancing function; we think of social formalities as militating against intimacy, but I have the feeling from reading these sutras that the formality in the Buddha’s sangha was the opposite, that it actually provided a way of expressing regard and intimacy. At least, at its best, it would give people a way to express respect, which would then allow them to increase their feeling of intimacy and respect, by virtue of doing ritualized actions.

Even though there’s just the two of them – maybe they’re outside under a tree or by the road – Meghiya bows and stands to one side to ask his question. The Buddha says, “Do whatever you think it is time for, Meghiya.” A beautiful response. So, in effect, Meghiya is saying, “I’m asking permission to go beg for alms”—probably on behalf of both of them—and the Buddha acknowledges his kindly asking for permission and says, “I trust you. Do whatever you think is right.”

So the venerable Meghiya, robing himself in the forenoon and taking bowl and robe entered the Jantu village in quest of alms-food, and after questing for alms-food, there returned after his rounds, and after eating his meal, went toward the bank of the river Kimikala, and on reaching it, while taking exercise by walking up and down and too and fro, he saw a lovely, delightful mango grove.

It seems that wearing the robe was a very important part of the practice. And when you wore the robe, you had to therefore comport yourself in a way that was in accord with the wearing of the robe. So you couldn’t lift weights or go jogging, because it would be unseemly to be wearing Buddha’s robe and be jogging along in sneakers. And you were always supposed to wear the robe. You were not supposed to be dressed in anything else other than the robe.

So to this day, Theravada monks get their exercise by walking up and down. Even though in Zen we don’t wear our robes all the time, I think similarly when we’re wearing the robe, we’re supposed to behave as if we were a person worthy of wearing the robe. And even more so in Zen, the robe is venerated. Even the rakusu is considered to be the Buddha’s own garment, borrowed by us temporarily.

So that’s why he’s walking up and down, to get his exercise. And mango groves are delightful. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen mango groves, but they are quite delightful because mango trees are very beautiful and they seem to encourage a soft open kind of ground underneath them, at least the mango groves that I’ve seen are like that. So it’s easy to see how someone spying a mango grove could think, Oh boy, that is a great-looking mango grove, I feel like hanging out in there for a long time! That’s apparently what Meghiya was feeling. So he thought “How truly lovely and delightful is this mango grove.” And of course, being a well-trained monk, the first thing he would think of when he saw this great mango grove is what a wonderful place this would be to practice meditation. This would be a great place for meditation. If the Buddha lets me do this, I will come here to this mango grove and I will practice meditation right here in this mango grove. This is a great place. I’m going to rush back now to the Buddha and see if he will let me do this.

So he goes back to the Buddha, sits down at one side, and he told the Buddha of his find and what he thought.

If the exalted one gives me leave, I would go to that mango grove to strive for concentration.

Now I would say you could read between the lines here. It’s not hard to do, to see that the Buddha is thinking that this is not a great idea for Meghiya to go to this mango grove and strive for concentration. But he doesn’t say that. Instead he says:

Wait a little, Meghiya, I am alone, till some other monk arrives. Don’t go yet, please stay for a while. When someone else comes to relieve you of your duties as my attendant, then you can go.

There are two things about this that I think are important, as the rest of the sutra will show. First of all, I think that maybe the Buddha thinks that Meghiya is not quite ready for meditation practice at that level of intensity yet. The other thing that may be in the Buddha’s mind, and I think the rest of the sutra will make this clear, is that more important than meditation practice and cultivation, is dharma relationship. In other words, if Meghiya had really been thinking about the dharma, he would have seen that this was not the time to meditate, when he was alone attending on the Buddha. He should have waited really until his services were not needed, when many other people were there, and it was just the right time. So the Buddha, I think, was very gently trying to teach him this, and also, perhaps, indicate that he wasn’t quite ready. Anyway, he said, wait a little bit. But Meghiya was a very enthusiastic fellow, and he pressed the point. Now this is interesting that he would do so, because you would think, Whoa, the Buddha! Somebody’s going to contradict the Buddha? Meghiya’s is probably twenty years old, and the Buddha is an older man.

So it’s actually wonderful and gives you an idea about the Buddha’s sangha, and throughout the sutras you see that, that people don’t always pay attention to the Buddha; they don’t always agree with him. They’re always respectful, they’re always polite, but sometimes they don’t go along with the Buddha’s suggestions—because the Buddha is always making suggestions. He’s never laying down laws. He assumes that he and the person in question have the same interests at heart, which is awakening, and that that’s the person’s commitment. The suggestions he’s making are for the purpose of awakening.

So Meghiya says to him, “Well, you see it’s not fair, because you, Buddha, have nothing more to be done in the way of meditation. You have already, through your meditation practice, achieved awakening. But that’s not true for me. I have a lot of work to do in meditation, and I shouldn’t be wasting time. So I can see where you might think that meditation wouldn’t be necessary now, but I have a sense of urgency about that, so I’m asking you again, please, if you would give me permission I will go to the mango grove to strive for concentration.”

So the Buddha says, Well, Meghiya, wait a little bit. I am alone until some other monk arrives. But Meghiya asks a third time, and the third time the Buddha says, Well, Meghiya, what can I say? How am I going to forbid you to meditate? After all, here I am, trying to get everybody to meditate night and day, and you want to meditate, so how can I deny you this? Do what you think it is time for, Meghiya. It’s up to you. In the end, it’s really up to you. Whatever you think. I mean, I tried to tell you what I thought, but OK.

So the venerable Meghiya rose from his seat, saluted the Exalted One with his right side and went away to that mango grove.

And on reaching it he plunged into it, and sat down for the midday rest at the foot of a certain tree. [And he started to meditate. And he was very excited about this meditation.]

Now, as the venerable Meghiya was staying in that mango grove (sitting there meditating) there came habitually upon him three evil, unprofitable forms of thought (in other words, distractions from the meditation that made it impossible for him to sit there meditating).

The word “evil” is unfortunate here. It doesn’t mean he was thinking of murdering somebody! Maybe he had such thoughts, but the point is his mind was distracted with thoughts “lustful, malicious, and harmful,” so that he was unable to meditate. He was really sitting there in a state of shock that such thoughts were running through his mind, and he was unable to pay attention.

Then what a wonderful reaction he has to this! The rest of us would probably be full of self-loathing and full of disappointment, anger, frustration. But Meghiya is so wonderful. He says, Isn’t this strange! This is a wonderful thing! It’s an amazing thing, that here I am, a monk who gave up everything and took these vows, and I’m totally committed to the homeless life, and then finally I get to this beautiful mango grove to meditate, and the only thoughts I have are lustful, malicious, harmful thoughts!

The Buddha taught, not a preordained curriculum, but teachings that would always be in response to the condition of a person’s heart and circumstances. So that’s what happens here. The Buddha is about to launch into a teaching that is good for all of us and particularly good for Meghiya. So he begins by saying,

Meghiya, when the heart’s release is immature, five things conduce to its maturity.

Now, “the heart’s release” means nirvana. It’s a wonderful translation for nirvana. I don’t know what words are used in the original text in Pali, whether it just says nibbana or whether it literally says “the heart’s release,” but there’s no doubt that this is a synonym for nirvana. It’s a wonderful thing to contemplate. It’s a good way to think about the goal “the heart’s release” – that the heart would be open and free of all that constricts it and makes our feeling twisted and small. The heart being open, the heart being free. The heart being released of constriction – that is the goal of the path. That’s the point of meditation practice.

So he’s saying to Meghiya that when you have not yet been able to effect the heart’s release, when even the path toward the release of the heart is as yet quite immature, there are five things that will conduce to its maturity.

What are the five things? First, a monk has a lovely intimacy, a lovely friendship, a lovely comradeship.

Isn’t that wonderful? The first thing for the path towards the heart’s release, the first thing, is a lovely friendship, a lovely intimacy, a spiritual companionship.

When the heart’s release is immature, this is the first thing that conduces to its maturity.

That’s why the Buddha said, stay awhile, don’t go yet. Because first thing is our relationship and our friendship and our mutual trust. Based on that relationship, based on that trust, you meditate, but that trust needs to be there.

Then again, Meghiya, a monk is virtuous,a monk abides restrained with the restraint of the obligations (meaning the precepts), a monk is perfect in the practice of right behavior, sees danger in trifling faults, undertakes and trains himself in the ways of training. When the heart’s release is immature, Meghiya, this is the second thing that conduces to its maturity.

That means ethical conduct, following precepts, not causing harm is the second thing for the heart’s release. The third thing:

As regards talk that is serious and suitable for opening up the heart and conduces to downright revulsion, to dispassion, to ending, to calm, to comprehension, to perfect insight, to nibbana, that is to say…

Now this language is a little objectionable and take us off the point. “…to downright revulsion, to dispassion”—I wouldn’t translate it like that. I would say “talk that causes us to let go of our attachment, let go of our aversion, so that our passions don’t get the best of us.” It doesn’t mean that we should be bloodless, boring people! It means that we should just not be so stuck on our needs and desires. The way you talk will condition that, so pay attention to the way you talk:

Talk about wanting little, about contentment, about solitude, about avoiding society, about putting forth energy (for practice), talk about virtue, concentration of mind and wisdom, talk about release, knowledge and insight of release. Such talk as this a monk gets at pleasure, without pain and without stint. When the heart’s release is immature, Meghiya, this is the third thing that conduces to its maturity.

So the third thing is our speech practice, what comes out of our mouth, because how we speak conditions how we think, conditions how we act, conditions how our life goes. So speak with kindness, speak of things that are tending you in the direction of your spiritual cultivation. Don’t speak of things that are tending you in the direction of letting go of that cultivation. That’s very important. That’s the third thing.

Fourth, a monk abides resolute in energy for the abandoning of unprofitable things, for the acquiring of profitable things. He is stout and strong in effort, not laying aside the burden in things profitable. When the heart’s release is immature, Meghiya, this is the fourth thing that conduces to its maturity.

So that’s the fourth thing, is to put forth energy, strong energy for practice, taking up what’s worthwhile, letting go of what’s not.

Finally, the last of the five things, is insight “that goes on to discern the rise and fall.” In other words, a deep appreciation of impermanence.

. . . with the Aryan (that means noble) penetration which goes on to penetrate the perfect ending of ill. When the heart’s release is immature, Meghiya, this is the fifth thing, and these are the five things that conduce to its maturity. So first is a lovely relationship; second is cleaning up your conduct so that it doesn’t create distractions and confusions in the mind; third, your speech is careful and in accord with your commitment to practice; fourth, you make strong effort to practice; and fifth, you have insight into the nature of impermanence. These five things you need to mature your path toward the heart’s release.

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Sutras from the Old Way 2002 – 5th Sutra – Parable of the Saw

This is the fifth talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

Sutras from the Old Way 5

Zoketsu Norman Fischer

Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

“The Sutra on the Simile of the Saw.”

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was living at Savatthi in Jeta’s Grove, Anathapindika’s Park. Now on that occasion, the venerable Moliya Phagguna was associating overmuch with bhikkhunis.

Moliya Phagguna was a monk and a bhikkhuni was a nun. As you’ll see in a moment, this does not mean that he was flirting with them or doing anything that was not proper. His relationship to them was not quite right, but not in the way that one might think.

He was associating so much with bhikkhunis that if any bhikkhu (which is a male monastic) spoke dispraise of those bhikkhunis in his presence, he would become angry and displeased and would rebuke him, and if any bhikkhu spoke dispraise of the venerable Moliya Phagguna in those bhikkhunis’ presence, they would become angry and displeased and would rebuke him.

So this is the idea, that he had a very special relationship with a particular community of bhikkhunis.

Then a certain bhikkhu went to the Blessed One (meaning the Buddha), and after paying homage to him, he sat down at one side and told the Blessed One what was taking place (how Moliya Phagguna was overmuch associating with the bhikkhunis).

Although there are moments in the Pali sutras in which the Buddha displays various sorts of powers, most of the time the Buddha is viewed as a human being, who finds out what other people are doing because someone comes and tells him. So what does he do about it? This is very instructive about how the Buddha would operate. We’re all in this together, we’re all trying to help each other achieve freedom from our own delusions and confusions, and so I notice that this is a place where Moliya Phagguna needs some work. Maybe the Buddha has a good idea how to help him:

Come, bhikkhu, tell the bhikkhu Moliya Phagguna, in my name, that the Teacher calls him. “Yes, venerable sir,” he replied, and he went to the venerable Moliya Phagguna and he told him, “The teacher calls you, friend Phagguna.”.

“Yes, friend,” he replied. And he went to the Blessed One and after paying homage to him, sat down at one side. And then the Buddha asked him, “Phagguna, is it true that you are associating overmuch with the bhikkhunis?”

When someone tells me something, I often catch myself and have to remind myself, “Oh, they’re telling me what they think, not necessarily facts.” Even though they may believe that it’s a fact, we all are only seeing as far as we can see. So, especially, if somebody tells you what somebody else is doing, you always have to remember, Oh, that’s just what they think. So he asks,

Is it true that you are associating so much with the bhikkhunis that if any bhikkhu speaks dispraise of those bhikkhunis in your presence, you become angry and displeased and rebuke him? And if any bhikkhu speaks dispraise of you in those bhikkhunis’ presence, they become angry and displeased and rebuke him? Are you associating so much with bhikkhunis as it seems?

Phagguna, are you not a clansman who has gone forth out of faith from the home life into homelessness? (In other words, haven’t you made this big commitment?)

Here “the home life” really means not so much the home life per se, but attachment, non-spiritual endeavor. The reverse of the home life, “the homeless life,” means freedom in the path. And of course, Phagguna says, Yes, I have, that’s true, that’s right. And then the Buddha says,

Then, Phagguna, it is not proper for you, who has made this tremendous commitment, to associate overmuch with bhikkhunis. Therefore, if anyone speaks dispraise of those bhikkhunis in your presence, you should abandon any desires and any thoughts based on the household life. (In other words, any thoughts of attachment and non-freedom.)

According to the Buddha, That’s attachment, Moliya Phagguna! You really have to pay attention to that, and instead of that, you should train in the following way:

“My mind will be unaffected, and I shall utter no evil words. I shall abide compassionately for his welfare, with a mind of loving-kindness, without inner hate.”

In other words, the Buddha is saying, Do you see what’s happening here, Phagguna? When someone is complaining about those nuns, your attachment to the nuns is so strong that you have, because of that attachment, aversion to the person who’s speaking, and you’re complaining and rebuking that person. You should know that that action comes from your attachment. That’s really not in line with your goal as a home-leaver, so notice that that’s what’s happening and replace that thought, somehow, with a thought of compassion and loving-kindness for the person who’s making that comment, and commit yourself to not speaking rebuke against that person.

You may ask, How would you train your mind in that way? That is one of the most important things, really, about the Buddha’s path – the possibility that thought, attitude, and feeling can be shaped according to cultivation and intention. If that’s not true, then what’s the point? We all think of our thought as automatically arising: This is how I think! I can’t help it! But actually, over time, we can help it. We can think differently as a result of our cultivation and practice.

So he’s asking Phagguna to note that this kind of response, that he has habitually had, is a problem. Now whenever it comes up, note it as attachment, and then mindfully memorize this phrase and repeat it to yourself. When you note that kind of attachment, try to be calm and breathe and notice, and then try to cultivate this affirmative attitude of kindness, compassion, and non-blame.

Even if they would hit the bhikkhuni a blow with their hand, if somebody should do that, or with a clod, with a stick, or even with a knife in your presence, you should abandon any thought based on attachment and the household life and train your mind in the same way. If anyone speaks dispraise in your presence, you should abandon any desires or thoughts based on the household life and train the mind in the same way. If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, a clod, a stick, or a knife, you should abandon any desires and any thoughts based on the household life and train your mind in the same way.

And it’s repeated every time, the same formula:

My mind will be unaffected, and I shall utter no evil words. I shall abide compassionate for his welfare, with a mind of loving-kindness, without inner hate.

In other words, even if all these things happen – which would give rise to your attachment and complaining – let go and practice kindness.

Then the Blessed One addressed all the assembled bhikkhus: Bhikkhus, there was an occasion when the bhikkhus satisfied my mind (in other words when they really made me happy, when I really felt that they were doing the right thing). When was that? That was when I addressed the bhikkhus in this way. I said to them, “Bhikkhus, I eat at a single session. (I only eat one meal a day.) By doing so, I am free from illness and affliction, and I enjoy health, strength, and a comfortable abiding. Why don’t you do that, too? If you do that, you too will be free from illness, affliction, and you will enjoy health, strength, and a comfortable abiding.”

Suppose there were a chariot on even ground at the crossroads, harnessed to thoroughbred horses, waiting with the goad lying ready, so that a skilled trainer, a charioteer of horses to be tamed might mount it, and taking the reins in his left hand and the goad in his right hand might drive out and back by any road whenever he likes.

So too I had no need to keep on instructing those bhikkhus. I had only to arise mindfulness in them.

Therefore, bhikkhus, abandon what is unwholesome and devote yourself to wholesome states, for that is how you will come to growth, increase, and fulfillment in this dhamma and discipline.

The issue here is abandoning what is unwholesome and increasing what is wholesome. But very specifically, the Buddha is talking about getting angry at people who are giving you a hard time. When you find yourself angry at somebody who’s giving you a hard time, you need to notice that that really is because of attachment, and then you cultivate equanimity and loving-kindness.

It’s no trick to be a nice guy when everybody’s nice to you. It’s easy to be nice when everybody’s nice to you. That’s no big deal. But what about when people are rotten to you? How do you behave then? That’s the question. If you depend on these very nice conditions to be kind and nice, then I’m not so sure how kind and nice you actually are.

I do not call a bhikkhu easy to admonish who is easy to admonish and makes himself easy to admonish only for the sake of getting robes, alms food, a resting place, and medicine. Why is that? Because a bhikkhu is not easy to admonish nor makes himself easy to admonish when he gets no robes, alms food, resting place, and medicine. When a bhikkhu is easy to admonish and makes himself easy to admonish because he honors, respects, and reveres the dharma, him I call really easy to admonish.

Our minds will remain unaffected and we shall utter no evil words. We shall abide compassionate for their welfare, with a mind of loving-kindness, without inner hate. We shall abide pervading that person with a mind imbued with loving-kindness, and starting with him we shall abide pervading the all-encompassing world with a mind imbued with loving-kindness, abundant, exalted, immeasurable, without hostility and without ill will. Thus you should train, bhikkhus.

Now you may be wondering at this point: this sutra is called “The Simile of the Saw” Where’s the saw? The saw comes at the very end.

Bhikkhus, even if bandits were to sever you savagely limb by limb with a two-handled saw, he who gave rise to a mind of hate toward them would not be carrying out my teaching. Herein, bhikkhus, you should train your mind thus: (and then he repeats yet again) our minds will remain unaffected, we shall utter no evil words, we shall abide compassionate (and so on and so forth). Bhikkhus, if you keep this advice on the simile of the saw constantly in mind, do you see any course of speech, trivial or gross, that you could not endure?

If you’re a schoolteacher, they call it the “teachable moment”—something happens and this is the perfect moment—so in this case the teachable moment is Moliya Phagguna’s relationship with these nuns. It specifically has to do with how you practice when people are speaking to you in ways that you don’t like, and how you should cultivate a mind that is so deep and wide that when you’re spoken to in a harsh way or an untimely way, or a nasty way, or with hatred, you are actually able to come back with kindness.

If you keep this advice on the simile of the saw constantly in mind, do you see any course of speech, trivial or gross that you could not endure? “No, venerable sir!” Therefore, bhikkhus you should keep this advice on the simile of the saw constantly in mind. That will lead to your welfare and happiness for a long time.” That is what the Blessed One said. The bhikkhus were satisfied and delighted in the Blessed One’s words.

It may strike you that this teaching is very challenging, and you may even doubt whether it’s a good idea to even undertake such a thing. I think the indication is that we should go in that direction. We should, as much as possible, as much as we can, cultivate loving-kindness. I think that having perfect loving-kindness is maybe not possible. That shouldn’t be a problem. It’s not a question of being perfect at this. The bigger problem is whether this is a good idea to do at all.

Some of us might not agree with that. In other words, no matter what anybody says or does, right or wrong starts yelling and screaming at me. Am I right to be angry and defend myself? The Buddha seems to be saying that the practice is to have an attitude in all cases, regardless of what anybody is doing or saying, of acceptance, loving-kindness, non-blaming, non-defensiveness, and so on. You might say, Isn’t this enormously passive? You’d let people walk all over you! My idea would be, not necessarily. This teaching is not talking about the specificity of various kinds of actions. What it’s talking about is attitude. So it is possible, I think, to have an attitude of non-blaming and caring, and yet prevent somebody from doing something that is somehow bad or wrong or unjust. This is really talking about our inner feeling and the attitude and the feeling that we have to cultivate toward anyone who is in this case very specifically speaking to us in any way.

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Sutras from the Old Way 2002- 6th Sutra – Angulimala

This is the sixth talk on the Pali Canon sutras. The text referred to in the talk is the photocopied booklet “Sutras from the Old Way – Selections from the Pali Canon,” which can be downloaded as a PDF.

 

Sutras from the Old Way 6: Angulimala
Zoketsu Norman Fischer
Transcribed and edited by Murray McGillivray and Barbara Byrum

We’re going to read the Angulimala Sutta. This is a really interesting text about karma, because here’s a murderer, who is obviously accruing huge amounts of very, very bad karma, and, then, by virtue of the power of the Buddha’s presence, manages to see what he’s done, repents, changes his life, and even becomes an arhat. And as the story shows, he still has to endure the karmic effects of his deeds, even though he’s enlightened and an arhat. So let’s see how the story goes:

Thus have I heard: on one occasion, the Blessed One was living at Savatthi, in Jeta’s Grove, Anathapindika’s Park. Now on that occasion there was a bandit in the realm of King Pasenadi of Kosala bandit named Angulimala . He was was murderous, bloody-handed, given to blows and violence, merciless to living beings. He was constantly murdering people, and he wore their fingers as a garland.So he actually wore a necklace around his neck – if you can imagine this – which had on it the fingers of all the people that he had killed

One day when it was morning, the Blessed One [the Buddha] dressed, and taking his bowl and outer robe, set out on the road leading toward Angulimala.

So lest you thought that the Buddha was passive and was not one who would confront aggression head on, here he’s being not only proactive, but we might say proactive in a foolhardy way. He’s going all by himself to confront this serial killer. And the way he goes about it is quite astonishing. He takes care of business and just goes through the day nicely, peacefully, and then he sets out on the road leading toward Angulimala.

Cowherds, shepherds, and plowmen passing by saw the Buddha walking along the road leading toward Angulimala, and they said to him, “Do not take this road, recluse, on this road is the bandit Angulimala, who is murderous, bloody-handed, given to blows and violence, merciless to living beings. Villages, towns, and districts have been laid waste by him. He murders people, and he wears their fingers as a garland. Men have come along this road in groups of ten, twenty, thirty, and even forty, but still they have fallen into Angulimala’s hands.” When this was said, the Buddha simply continued on in silence.

There’s something in this phrase, “he continued on in silence,” that gives you the feeling that he’s not going along here with a vigilante spirit, or being stubborn. He’s just going along peacefully, as if he were going walking anywhere. And you’ll see the power in a moment of the Buddha’s peaceful walking.

So he finally approaches the bandit Angulimala who sees him coming in the distance, and when he sees him coming he says, “It is wonderful, it is marvelous —how amazing! Here comes this single person confronting me, apparently without any big weapons, not riding a horse, but just walking peacefully along. People have been coming to get me in groups of ten, twenty, thirty, and even forty but they have all fallen into my hands, and now here comes this recluse, this monk, unaccompanied, as if driven by fate.

The bandit Angulimala set out after the Buddha, who is going along at his Buddha pace, quite slowly. The text here tells us that the Buddha is going to perform a feat of supernatural power. The bandit Angulimala is walking as fast as he could behind the slowly walking Buddha. He was walking at his normal pace, but one thing about the Buddha is that the Buddha always walked at his normal pace. In other words, the Buddha was not a person who would hurry or rush.

So he was doing that, and here’s the bandit Angulimala, who we can presume is in pretty good shape and strong and big, is running as fast as he can behind the Buddha, who’s walking quite slowly. But he’s not catching up! This is the amazing thing! He’s not catching up to the Buddha! He remains too far away to lay a hand on him. So he thinks to himself, This is amazing! Every time before this I could catch up even with a swift elephant and grab it, even a horse I could outrun and seize it! He finally yells out. “Stop, recluse, stop!” And the Buddha says to him, “I have stopped already, Angulimala. Now you must stop.”

Then the bandit Angulimala thought: “These recluses, sons of the Sakyans, speak truth, assert truth, but though this recluse is still walking he says, ‘I have stopped.'”

So here the Buddha is walking along at his normal pace, and he’s saying, “I have stopped.” So now there are two marvellous things: How come I can’t catch up to him when I’m going at full speed and he’s walking slowly? And how come he’s saying that he’s stopped when he clearly has not stopped but is still walking? What does he mean by this? I’m going to ask him.

While you are walking, recluse, you tell me you have stopped;But now, when I have stopped, you say I have not stopped.I ask you now, O recluse, about the meaning:How is it that you have stopped and I have not?

The Buddha say, Angulimala, I have stopped forever;I abstain from violence towards living beings;But you have no restraint towards things that live.That is why I have stopped and you have not.

Now, this is a little bit deeper statement than it seems. The Buddha is not only saying here, I believe, that he doesn’t kill people. He’s saying that on a deep, deep level he has stopped the arising of even those subtle impulses in the human heart, that when not checked and dealt with, eventually will lead to real violence. So not only does he not kill people, but he has totally stopped the arising of any impulses toward aggression, selfishness.

Angulimala says,

Oh, at long last this recluse, a venerated sage,

Has come to this great forest for my sake.

Having heard your stanza teaching me the Dhamma,

I will indeed renounce evil forever.

So, that was pretty easy! It should be so easy for the rest of us! We can only imagine in our mind’s eye or in our heart’s eye encountering a person who would have such a powerfully good heart that just being in their presence would inspire us to change our lives. Such a thing may be possible, that you would encounter a person that suddenly sees your life, and on that occasion, you would be sincerely willing to change your life completely. Well, this is what happens to Angulimala in hearing this teaching from the Buddha, and, of course, it’s not only the Buddha’s words, but it’s also this miraculous act that Angulimala could not catch up with the Buddha that turns his heart around utterly and completely. He says, I now understand. The spell has been broken under which I’ve been living all this time in my delusion and confusion, and I now see that I also must make the effort to stop as you have done.

So saying, he took his sword and weapons

And flung them in a gaping chasm’s pit.

The bandit worshipped the Sublime One’s feet,

(in other words, he prostrated himself)

And then and there he said “I want to be ordained, I want to be a monastic, right here and now.”

Again, this is not unusual. In the sutras it happens many times exactly like this. And the ordination ceremony is in the next stanza:

The Enlightened One, the Sage of Great Compassion,

The Teacher of the world with [all] its gods,

Addressed him with these words, “Come, bhikkhu.”

So now here you can imagine: the Buddha walks back home with this new bhikkhu, and somebody is going to recognize him as a serial killer. The Buddha seems to have full confidence that Angulimala has literally become a different person. Because this is the idea: when you become a bhikkhu, when you take monastic vows, you actually become a different person. The Buddha is convinced that Angulimala is not the Angulimala that he was a moment before.

The people of the town apparently didn’t recognize him, at least not at first. But eventually the word got out and great crowds of people were gathering at the gates of King Pasenadi’s inner palace, crying out, “Sire, the bandit Angulimala is in your realm; he is murderous, bloody-handed.”

Now, I don’t think they realize at this point what has happened to Angulimala. They just know he’s in the realm and terrorizing everybody and they want him out. So the king sends the cavalry out, five hundred men, looking for Angulimala. And he went as far as he could on the carriage, and then dismounted from the carriage and went forward on foot to the Blessed One, to the Buddha. After paying homage to the Buddha, he sat down at one side, and the Buddha said to him,

What is it? Is King Seniya Bimbisara of Magadha attacking you, or the Licchavis of Vesali, or other hostile kings?

In other words, what are you doing here, with a five hundred person cavalry? Is there a war going on that I don’t know about? “No,” he says, “there is no such thing like that, but there is a bandit in my realm, named Angulimala, who is murderous, murdering people all the time, and having this absolutely hideous finger garland. What am I going to do? This is going to be a hard job for me.”

the idea here is quite astonishing, Before he goes out looking for Angulimala, the first thing he does is go to the Buddha and say, “What do you think? What’s your counsel on the matter here? Do you have any thoughts on how I’m going to catch this murderer?” Anyway, he says to the king,

Great king, suppose you were to see that Angulimala had shaved off his hair and beard, put on the yellow robe, and gone forth from the home life into homelessness; that he was abstaining from killing living beings, from taking what is not given and from false speech; that he was refraining from eating at night, ate only in one part of the day, and was celibate, virtuous, of good character. If you were to see him thus, how would you treat him?

When you think about this, this is amazing, because as you see the king says, “I would pay homage to him. We would respect him as we respect all monastics.” So much faith! There are different groups of monastics, travelling around, But it would appear as if they conducted themselves with so much integrity and peacefulness that they had gained the respect of everyone. But to the king, such a thing would be absolutely unthinkable. Nobody would ever think, so much respect would this tradition be held in, even a serial killer would never think of putting on this robe with false pretences. If somebody put on the robe and followed the way of life, they would be doing so sincerely. So if Angulimala were to appear as a monastic, I would have to respect that, there would be no other choice but to respect him and honor him. But, he says, such a thing would never happen, because Angulimala is a terrible murderer and he’s an evil person, and how could he ever possibly have any virtue and restraint?

Now as this conversation is going on, Angulimala is sitting there nearby. The king doesn’t recognize him. And so the Buddha says, This monk right here, sitting over here, is the ax-murderer, the serial killer that you’ve been looking for. You’re worried about how you’re going to capture him with five hundred men, well I’m telling you he’s sitting right here peacefully, two people away from you. Don’t worry. You have nothing to fear from this man. And the king calms down and he goes over to Angulimala, looks him up and down and says, Are you really—is this noble monk really Angulimala?“And he says, Yes, great king. And the king says, This is truly amazing. You, oh Buddha, have tamed the untamable. You have brought peace to the unpeaceful, and led to nirvana those who seemingly could never attain it.

Venerable sir, we ourselves with our armies and so forth, could never tame this person, and yet the Blessed One has tamed him without force or weapons.

The next day, Angulimala goes out for alms, and he sees a woman giving birth to a deformed child. When he sees this, his heart is touched, This is a tragedy I’m seeing in front of me, but how much sentient beings have such things happening to them! He goes back to the Buddha and he tells him. Now the Buddha says something very strange to him. He says, Since your heart has been touched by this woman, you should try to help her. You should try to take away this pain. And here’s how you can do it. Go back to that woman and say to her,

Sister, since I was born I do not recall that I have ever intentionally deprived a living being of life. By this truth, may you be well and may your infant be well.

Now one thing you have to understand about this is that there was an ancient tradition in India, not only Buddhist but throughout Indian culture, that there was the power of truth-telling. That is, somebody would stand up and say something that was significant and really true, usually something that had to do with spiritual attainment. The idea is if you swore this truth, you could use the power of that truth to effect change, to make things happen

So the Buddha’s suggesting that Angulimala do this in relation to this woman, that he go back to her and say to her, I now swear that I have never, since I was born, intentionally hurt a living being and by the power of the truth of that statement, may your child be whole. You can imagine how Angulimala would have felt when he heard the Buddha say that. I think that he was saying this for a reason. Angulimala had already truly repented and turned his life round and had become a monk. But there was still something in Angulimala’s heart that needed cleansing. The Buddha realized that since his heart was opened by seeing this woman, this was good, andhe said to Angulimala,

Then, Angulimala, go into Savatthi and say to that woman, “Sister, since I was born with the noble birth, I do not recall that I have ever intentionally deprived a living being of life. By this truth, may you be well and may your infant be well.

In other words, Since I have been reborn in the dharma, and have become another person in the dharma—since that time, I have never intentionally taken another life. And I think Angulimala upon hearing this, something in him releases, and he really does grieve over his past actions, really lets them go, and really recognizes that he has truly been reborn into a new life. So he goes and tells that to the woman. It actually works, and the woman and the infant become whole again.

Angulimal has learned something and let something go, and also for the first time, maybe ever in his life, has been able to effect goodness instead of harm. Immediately after that, what happens? He is released with direct knowledge.

Here and now he entered upon and abided in that supreme goal of the holy life for the sake of which clansmen rightly go forth from the home life into homelessness. He directly knew: birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming into any state of being. And the venerable Angulimala became one of the arhats.

So that’s interesting. Encountering the woman and this emotional moment is what he needed to become an arhat. What happens immediately after he becomes an arhat? He’s now released and enlightened. Everything goes well from now on, right? No. Just the opposite. Instead of everything coming up roses, somebody throws a clod of earth at him, somebody throws a stick at him, someone throws a potsherd at him. He comes back to the Buddha in this condition and the Buddha sees him coming in the distance and says to him,

Bear it! Bear it! You are experiencing here and now the results of deeds because of which you might have been tortured in hell for many years, for many hundreds of years, for many thousands of years.

But you’re experiencing it now in a less virulent form—this is nothing, he’s saying, compared to what you deserve. But because of your good deeds and your heart-opening experiences and awakening, this is all you have to bear. Don’t complain about it. Be grateful for this suffering. In other words, his enlightenment does not wipe out his karma. He has to still suffer for it. But because of his practice, the suffering in bearable.

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